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Inducktion
Tue May 21 2019, 09:06AM Print
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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Hi All!

I'm currently exploring various low cost options to creating x-ray radiation... Don't need anything super powerful at all.

I'm leaning towards the "tried and true" method of using a vacuum tube like a 2x2 or 1S2A since they're relatively simple to get and very cheap.

I've also read that magnetrons might potentially be viable as well, though they're certainly larger and bulkier than a small vacuum tube.

I don't think I need a super focused source of x-rays, since my target is going to mainly be seeds for experimentation. Not photography or anything.


Additionally, yes, I understand the dangers of x-ray radiation; that's why I'm going to go overboard and make a thick lead box to house the radiation producing parts. I want to primarily be safe, after all.



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Conundrum
Thu Aug 08 2019, 03:14AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hi, how far have you got?

I have a few bits here that may help.
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Sulaiman
Thu Aug 08 2019, 03:52AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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If you can use low doserate x-rays then an Americium insert from a smoke alarm/detector may be sufficient.
Am decays emitting alpa particles, but the decay chain includes x-ray emmisions.
You can measure the x-ray doserate with your G-M tube, that you use to check for the safety of your setup.
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Conundrum
Fri Aug 30 2019, 06:37PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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241Am also works and is easier to get hold of now everyone has switched to photoelectric detectors.

You can use 40K but its hard to extract enough of it.
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Inducktion
Mon Sept 02 2019, 06:24AM
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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I've actually acquired a real X-ray tube from a dental head that I need to take apart at some point. Very kindly donated to me via a friend of a friend. Has a lot of oil and a SMPS of some variety for the transformer! Very interesting, so it must be a "newer" variety.
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Conundrum
Tue Sept 03 2019, 06:07AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Be careful with it!
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Inducktion
Wed Sept 04 2019, 05:55AM
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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Oh 110% of course. Whenever I get around to it I'm not going to play or cheap out on safety.
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Conundrum
Tue Sept 17 2019, 06:47PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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This is good. Also I have a couple of spare SBM tubes and power supply.
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Conundrum
Tue Sept 17 2019, 06:48PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Conundrum wrote ...

This is good. Also I have a couple of spare SBM tubes and power supply.
Can you make use of some scintillator film?

EDIT: Some is already in the US, if anyone needs it let me know.
Also just got a 6VS-1 >:-> suprised



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