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Andrea87
Sun Nov 19 2006, 08:56PM Print
Andrea87 Registered Member #494 Joined: Thu Nov 09 2006, 02:42AM
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I'm planning to build a decent high voltage probe to measure voltages up to 20-30kV, by now I've wound 50 out of 100 10MΩ resistors on a heat melting glue tube, to get a total value of 500MΩ, two in series for 1GΩ.

this is one of the two big resistors: Link2

I'm planning to use a 1M resistor as the second one, for a ~ 1000:1 divider, maybe with an opamp attached to give a good output impedance (1M is rather too high, my digital vom would give me a wrong value) like 1Kohm.

this is a simple buildup schematic for the HV side only, with a 1M output impedance:
Link2

does anyone know a good OPamp that I can use to get a good output impedance?

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Sulaiman
Sun Nov 19 2006, 10:21PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Rather than dividing the voltage and using an op-amp as a voltage multiplier
use the op-amp in inverting 'virtual earth' mode
i.e. Input to one end of hv resistor, other end of hv resistor to Inv-I/P
non-Inv_I/P to GND, feedback resistor from O/P to inv-I/P.

Put a couple of diodes (inverse parallel) from GND to inv-I/P for protection.
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Mon Nov 20 2006, 02:20AM
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Another thing you can do is use the input independence of your dmm as the smaller resistor. Sometimes is is marked (like 1M or something), or you can use another meter to measure it (set it to volts, turn it on, then use another meter set for ohms on the voltage terminals). DMM's have a very high input independence (b/c the input is just an op-amp) so they put a fixed resistor across the input.
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Andrea87
Mon Nov 20 2006, 08:29AM
Andrea87 Registered Member #494 Joined: Thu Nov 09 2006, 02:42AM
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... wrote ...

Another thing you can do is use the input independence of your dmm as the smaller resistor. Sometimes is is marked (like 1M or something), or you can use another meter to measure it (set it to volts, turn it on, then use another meter set for ohms on the voltage terminals). DMM's have a very high input independence (b/c the input is just an op-amp) so they put a fixed resistor across the input.

yep... thats a good idea, I'll use my old 5€ multimeter as HV meter, gonna look at its imput resistance with the new one just bought at the last ham radio fair.

1GOhm will be enough as imput impedance for the hv side?

edit: Had another idea, a pot placed in series with the second resistor to "setup" the right ratio for the imput impedance of the DMM:
Hvprobexf6
Let's think my DMM does have a 10M impedance, if we suppose that we have 1µA in the 1M resistor. if we parallel the DMM we'll get about 0,909µA trough it, and a ~10% error. if the second resistor is 1,1M, when paralleled with the 10M impedance of the tester, the current will be 1µA, allowing a good measurement.
But... how to set it to the right value? I was thinking to give to it 100V DC, and set the trimmer / pot to get out on the DMM 0,1V.
Let's see if works in the next hours!
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