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Toasty
Mon Jan 25 2016, 06:45PM Print
Toasty Registered Member #56785 Joined: Fri Aug 28 2015, 02:54PM
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Hey guys
I found a nice DC flyback yesterday from a computer monitor. I powered it up using a 2n3055 circuit because it was all i had. Now i get a really nice and steady 3 cm arc. However the pins on the bottom keep arcing to each other which is a big problem. I know it keeps arcing between de flyback primary winding and between the ground and the capacitor. I read on the internet that if you hot glue or insulate it the flyback could start arcing on the inside. Could i just ground the capactor and internal primary pins using my mains ground? Anybody got an idea?
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Signification
Mon Jan 25 2016, 08:36PM
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I would hot glue 'em. Maybe even cut off at the quick the pins I don't use before gluing. BUT, I'm no expert, if after this is done, and some transformer starting arcing internally then, IMHO, it's either defective or overdriven, ...maybe at a resonant spot...?
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Patric
Mon Jan 25 2016, 09:07PM
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I do pour hot paraffin on it. Works very well!
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Toasty
Mon Jan 25 2016, 09:24PM
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Patric wrote ...

I do pour hot paraffin on it. Works very well!
Thanks! smile Could try that actually.... does it insulate well? Parrafine is candle wax right?
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Antonio
Mon Jan 25 2016, 09:30PM
Antonio Registered Member #834 Joined: Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:57PM
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If you ground the capacitor, instead of arcs you get powerful sparks. Normally the ground of the secondary coil shall be connected to the ground of the driving circuit, and it's always a good idea to connect the grounds to the mains ground. To insulate the capacitor, hot glue shall work, and is easy to remove it later if you want to use the capacitor.
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kimbomba
Mon Jan 25 2016, 10:29PM
kimbomba Registered Member #3854 Joined: Fri Apr 29 2011, 03:45AM
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Patric wrote ...

I do pour hot paraffin on it. Works very well!

I have tried the paraffin method. Works well for a while, then the arcs return. I guess the paraffin is eroded by the corona. Only method that has worked for me is to immerse the flyback in oil. Messy but effective.
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Patric
Tue Jan 26 2016, 09:40AM
Patric Registered Member #2899 Joined: Wed Jun 02 2010, 06:31PM
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kimbomba wrote ...

Patric wrote ...

I do pour hot paraffin on it. Works very well!

I have tried the paraffin method. Works well for a while, then the arcs return. I guess the paraffin is eroded by the corona. Only method that has worked for me is to immerse the flyback in oil. Messy but effective.

Never had that. Paraffin wax is an excellent electrical insulator, with a resistivity of between 10^13 and 10^17 ohm metre.
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Patric
Tue Jan 26 2016, 09:42AM
Patric Registered Member #2899 Joined: Wed Jun 02 2010, 06:31PM
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Patric wrote ...

kimbomba wrote ...

Patric wrote ...

I do pour hot paraffin on it. Works very well!

I have tried the paraffin method. Works well for a while, then the arcs return. I guess the paraffin is eroded by the corona. Only method that has worked for me is to immerse the flyback in oil. Messy but effective.

Never had that. Paraffin wax is an excellent electrical insulator, with a resistivity of between 10^13 and 10^17 ohm metre. I used paraffin for cooking (sticks).
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Signification
Tue Jan 26 2016, 11:18AM
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kimbomba wrote ...

Patric wrote ...

I do pour hot paraffin on it. Works very well!

I have tried the paraffin method. Works well for a while, then the arcs return. I guess the paraffin is eroded by the corona. Only method that has worked for me is to immerse the flyback in oil. Messy but effective.

Are you sure it was pure paraffin? I have come to trust the stuff with use over many years--never failed.
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kimbomba
Tue Jan 26 2016, 04:50PM
kimbomba Registered Member #3854 Joined: Fri Apr 29 2011, 03:45AM
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Signification wrote ...

kimbomba wrote ...

Patric wrote ...

I do pour hot paraffin on it. Works very well!

I have tried the paraffin method. Works well for a while, then the arcs return. I guess the paraffin is eroded by the corona. Only method that has worked for me is to immerse the flyback in oil. Messy but effective.

Are you sure it was pure paraffin? I have come to trust the stuff with use over many years--never failed.

Well I am not sure if it was pure paraffin. I used the stuff from a candle I got at walmart.
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