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Goodchild
Fri Nov 20 2015, 04:02PM
Goodchild Registered Member #2292 Joined: Fri Aug 14 2009, 05:33PM
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Another thing to consider with the Flyback or Buck-Boost topology is that it will perform automatic PFC inherently in DCM without an active PFC controller.

At 100W you could easily get both the PFC functionality and step down functionality from one supply and one transformer/magnetic part.




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Wolfram
Fri Nov 20 2015, 04:30PM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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What sort of output voltage do you need?

Push-pull is a bad topology for high power and high input voltage, due to the significant losses associated with the energy stored in the leakage inductance being dissipated in the MOSFETs on each switching cycle. Half- and fullbridge and two-switch forward (as shown in your initial post) are preferred for higher power and higher input voltage, as they return this energy to the DC bus capacitor.

Goodchild wrote ...

Another thing to consider with the Flyback or Buck-Boost topology is that it will perform automatic PFC inherently in DCM without an active PFC controller.

At 100W you could easily get both the PFC functionality and step down functionality from one supply and one transformer/magnetic part.


Most topologies can do this, if you can live with output current ripple or if you move the bulk storage capacitance to the secondary side.
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Goodchild
Fri Nov 20 2015, 05:39PM
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Wolfram wrote ...


Goodchild wrote ...

Another thing to consider with the Flyback or Buck-Boost topology is that it will perform automatic PFC inherently in DCM without an active PFC controller.

At 100W you could easily get both the PFC functionality and step down functionality from one supply and one transformer/magnetic part.


Most topologies can do this, if you can live with output current ripple or if you move the bulk storage capacitance to the secondary side.



Most typologies can, poorly...

Buck-Boost and Flyback are about the only typologies that can do it effectively with a decently high PF (>0.99) and low THD (<4%).

The bulk storage would have to be on the secondary side anyway or else your PF wouldn't be any better than a bridge rectifier and capacitor solution.

The trade-off is complexity/cost vs efficiency. Half-Bridge/Full-Bridge will provide a more efficient operation at higher cost and parts count with the need for a PFC front end.

Flyback, although less efficient has much lower parts count and no need for a PFC front end. This trade-off will make or break a product. This is why without a doubt the vast majority of PFC consumer SMPSs favor a Flyback like topology.

EDIT:
Almost forgot, CUK and SEPIC, can also have decent PFC quality without active PFC.
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Patrick
Fri Nov 20 2015, 07:13PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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- High component count is not a problem. (I want 2 transistors if possible.)
- I will use IGBT's for the 120 rectified side.
- I'm planning to step down to about-ish 12~18 volts at high current.
- I want about 800 to 1,000 total watts at the output.


Ross Allan wrote ...

If you can acquire some GaN HEMTs (eg: TPH3205WS), a totem pole (bridgeless) topology will be more efficient as you don't have any diode drops. Switching losses will be too high with MOSFETs, may also work with IGBTs ( Link2 ).
I will look at these.



1448047839 2431 FT174011 Flow Chart
Flow Chart.


EDIT: (here are the ferrites and powder cores I have to choose from.)

1448075336 2431 FT1630 Ferites
I'm thinking of using the blue powder toroid for the PFC inductor, and the ferrite E cores for the step-down transformer. My inventory is running abit low at the moment.


1448075336 2431 FT1630 Bins

And heres my little storage bins.


EDIT: more :


1448078119 2431 FT1630 E Cores

1448078119 2431 FT1630 Diode Fast

1448078119 2431 FT1630 Binsigbt

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Patrick
Mon Nov 23 2015, 12:51AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Here are the new low value resistors that I got today, 0.01 and 0.005 ohms.


1448239881 2431 FT173984 Resistors Low Ohm
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