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Will these work for full-wave rectification ?

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ZakWolf
Wed Oct 07 2015, 05:26AM Print
ZakWolf Registered Member #3114 Joined: Sat Aug 14 2010, 08:33AM
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Link2

I want to wind a secondary for a flyback transformer and rectify its output fully. The didoes cost around ~$20 a piece and its not something that I want to fry being that I need 4 for full-wave.

Second part of this is calculating my output voltage. I want it to be around 8-6kv and around or below the current threshold of the diodes (more current the better).

If im using a ZVS flyback driver can I measure the output voltage of the driver(loaded or unloaded) and then use a voltage to turn ration to calculate the output? Or even a couple high value resistors and read the voltage that way?
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Mads Barnkob
Wed Oct 07 2015, 07:00AM
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There is always the cheap solution of putting enough 1N4007 in series and assume 1kV rating for each added diode. You can build a 1MV rectifier for the same price as one those you linked to. Link2

For voltage feedback you could use a voltage divider network as here: Link2
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dexter
Wed Oct 07 2015, 07:24AM
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Mads Barnkob wrote ...

There is always the cheap solution of putting enough 1N4007 in series and assume 1kV rating for each added diode.

use UF4007's

1N4007 are not suitable for high frequency
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Mads Barnkob
Wed Oct 07 2015, 07:34AM
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dexter wrote ...

Mads Barnkob wrote ...

There is always the cheap solution of putting enough 1N4007 in series and assume 1kV rating for each added diode.

use UF4007's

1N4007 are not suitable for high frequency

You are right. 1N4007 got a Trr of 30 uS. The large 30kV diode have 100 nS and the UF4007 have 75 nS. It might end up costing the same then.
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ZakWolf
Wed Oct 07 2015, 06:04PM
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Mads Barnkob wrote ...

There is always the cheap solution of putting enough 1N4007 in series and assume 1kV rating for each added diode. You can build a 1MV rectifier for the same price as one those you linked to. Link2

For voltage feedback you could use a voltage divider network as here: Link2

I would do that but im not sure what kind of current my homemade transformer will be putting out. So using those larger dioeds i will have a 3A head room. Can I limit the output current somehow ? Might be better off using the larger dioeds so i dont have to worry about soldering all of them together and making sure they play nicely
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hen918
Thu Oct 08 2015, 04:56PM
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I find it unlikely that your transformer will output 40kW, or even 16kW.
Personally I would just make 4 strings of 10 UF4007s or more if you are still unsure of your output voltage.
Diodes play nicely in series. I've never had a problem.
You can get 100 for $10.
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ZakWolf
Thu Oct 08 2015, 06:27PM
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hen918 wrote ...

I find it unlikely that your transformer will output 40kW, or even 16kW.
Personally I would just make 4 strings of 10 UF4007s or more if you are still unsure of your output voltage.
Diodes play nicely in series. I've never had a problem.
You can get 100 for $10.


You're probably correct. With that being said if I use this in a tesla coil fashion, wont the spark gap discharge create a spike in current possibly exceeding the ratings of uf4007s? Will the inductive kickback be an issue as well ?

EDIT:I usually order these Link2 instead of UF4007's Link2 for my higher current project Recovery Times are the same: 75 ns. Im just unsure of any inductive kickback or stress from the spark gap/capacitor. Is there anything I can do to shunt it or protect them ?
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