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ZakWolf
Sun Jan 20 2013, 08:55AM Print
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I just gathered enough parts to start building my 2 stage coil gun and i was wondering were i position the led and phototransiter before the second stage? trigger circuit here Link2

Should it be right before the second stage or slightly before to have time to turn on ?

Thanks :)
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Yandersen
Sun Jan 20 2013, 11:48AM
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Put it right after the second stage - maybe it will shot backwards then?
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josh1234
Sun Jan 20 2013, 07:18PM
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put it just before the second stage
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ZakWolf
Sun Jan 20 2013, 07:22PM
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Yandersen wrote ...

Put it right after the second stage - maybe it will shot backwards then?

Sweet thanks I will try that :)

josh1234 wrote ...

put it just before the second stage

So no tuning at all ? The circuit is fast enough to sense the projectile and switch on ?
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josh1234
Mon Jan 21 2013, 10:47PM
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If you are using a SCR you should use Barry's rlc calculator to check you pulse length is not longer then the time it takes for the pregectile to get to the centre of the coil
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ZakWolf
Mon Jan 21 2013, 11:49PM
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josh1234 wrote ...

If you are using a SCR you should use Barry's rlc calculator to check you pulse length is not longer then the time it takes for the pregectile to get to the centre of the coil
to late :( so far the projectile penetrates through an entire card board box when hit with a small hammer to give it a push so hopefully the first coil will be more efffective
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Yandersen
Tue Jan 22 2013, 04:03AM
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I would put the gate right before the second coil and shorten the projectile a little bit - this way the difference in length will give the second coil some time to turn on and by the time current will rise to required level bullet will reach the point of maximum pull force - this should higher efficiency.
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ZakWolf
Tue Jan 22 2013, 05:03AM
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So I have been playing around with it and i am feeding the gate of the SCR ~7 volts when it requires only 1.5 i didn't know this was the output and now it only fires when feed a high voltage pulse. Is there anyway to have a higher current pulse at a lower voltage with that circuit and this hurt the SCR ?

thanks i will defiantly post this in the project sections when i start testing completely
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Yandersen
Tue Jan 22 2013, 11:37AM
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Have you ever heard about devices called resistors?
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ZakWolf
Tue Jan 22 2013, 06:30PM
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Yandersen wrote ...

Have you ever heard about devices called resistors?

No i will have to wiki them...

I dont mind the funny answers but i hope you dont mean anything by them

And after some tunning and tweaking i got the trigger citcuit to rest at .7v an spikes to 2v when the beam is broken
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