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Patrick
Sun Sept 16 2012, 05:45AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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there is a whole lot that goes into ESR and stray factors like inductance --- thickness of the aluminum, width versus length, electrolyte, purity ofaluminum, diameter of the output terminal and so on, its not just the electrolyte.

and theres a lot of competition to get to the low numbers among cap makers, so im sure they'res espianoge afoot.
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Conundrum
Sat Sept 22 2012, 06:20AM
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I wonder if you can detect "badCaps" (tm) using the magnetic sensor on a mobile phone with an induction based hysteresis loop generator running off the headphone output?
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Patrick
Sat Sept 22 2012, 05:00PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Conundrum wrote ...

I wonder if you can detect "badCaps" (tm) using the magnetic sensor on a mobile phone with an induction based hysteresis loop generator running off the headphone output?
well now that you blurt it out, you wont be able to patent it...
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Conundrum
Mon Sept 24 2012, 05:46PM
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Well, it wouldn't be patentable anyway because the same technique has already been patented as the SAPER for detecting IEDs.
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Patrick
Mon Sept 24 2012, 07:07PM
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really? we can detect IED's with cell phones ? seems dangerous....
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Conundrum
Tue Sept 25 2012, 07:18PM
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Yep, it uses the weak electromagnetic signature from say the analogue clock or phone speaker etc.
It can also detect the differential absorption of say C-4 compared with inert materials.

Turns out that even a dead mobile phone can be located this way, and it is also possible to hack an SDR such as the one found in some DTV sticks into a primitive yet effective scanner for bugs by sweeping the EM spectrum and looking for a harmonic.

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