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Where to buy new pulse rated aluminium electrolytics?

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Adam
Sat Aug 18 2012, 07:52AM Print
Adam Registered Member #3821 Joined: Fri Apr 08 2011, 02:20AM
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A google search brings up manufacturers' data sheets for various capacitors, epcos make them up to 2500uF @ 500v which sound great but I can't find anywhere that sells them in small (~10) quantities.

Where can I buy large (>200J) pulse rated caps?
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Thomas W
Sat Aug 18 2012, 08:28AM
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The question you need to ask yourself, i think, is how much money do you have to spare? my personal dream is to work up the funds for one of these:
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wether i will ever get one... it seems unlikely
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Adam
Sat Aug 18 2012, 08:41AM
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I would be happy to spend $1000 on capacitors for this project, but size and weight are important factors, hence why I want to go with light energy dense Aluminium electrolytics over Oil and Paper Steel case capacitors
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Ash Small
Sat Aug 18 2012, 11:30AM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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You can E-mail Epcos directly using the link below.

They will be able to give you details of your local distributor, etc.

Link2,locale=en.html
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Adam
Sat Aug 18 2012, 12:11PM
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Unfortunately all the Epcos distributors I can find don't carry their pulse rated range
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Pinky's Brain
Sat Aug 18 2012, 12:39PM
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How about these :
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Meant for strobe lights, so slightly slower than the photoflash/pulse capacitors ... but coilguns have relatively slow discharges to begin with. These are rated for 1 ohm loads, which gives you a RC time of 120 us ... plenty fast. You have to put 15 or so in parallel of course.
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Forty
Sat Aug 18 2012, 09:55PM
Forty Registered Member #3888 Joined: Sun May 15 2011, 09:50PM
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why you'd want to spend that much on a 120uF 450 volt capacitor is beyond me.

Link2
This guy has a bunch of capacitors for sale at great prices. enjoy.
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Pinky's Brain
Sat Aug 18 2012, 10:35PM
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You pay for the name and the guarantee that it will work under certain conditions ... someone making an airplane or landing strobe light probably wants those. Someone making a coilgun should probably just look at best ESR for the $ and hope for the best :)
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Adam
Sat Aug 18 2012, 11:27PM
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Thank you all for your responses. I think I need to really evaluate what's most important, and as Pinky's Brain said, just worry about getting the ESR as low as possible.

I was seeking Pulse related caps because of their long lifespans at high current discharge cycles, their low ESR and high discharge current capabilities.
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Dr. ISOTOP
Sun Aug 19 2012, 12:10AM
Dr. ISOTOP Registered Member #2919 Joined: Fri Jun 11 2010, 06:30PM
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Adam wrote ...

Thank you all for your responses. I think I need to really evaluate what's most important, and as Pinky's Brain said, just worry about getting the ESR as low as possible.

I was seeking Pulse related caps because of their long lifespans at high current discharge cycles, their low ESR and high discharge current capabilities.
Are you constructing a commercial product, or a piece of lab equipment?
If its for a personal project, you're pay a lot for an official guarantee, when standard electrolytics have been hobbyist-proven to work fine.
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