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Why are SCR's used for coilgun switches?

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Yanom
Fri Jun 15 2012, 03:10AM Print
Yanom Registered Member #4659 Joined: Sun Apr 29 2012, 06:14PM
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I finally learned how an SCR works (yay circuit simulator) , but now I'm curious. Why do people use these to switch on the current for coilguns? It seems for a single-stage coilgun (no sophisticated timing, and the caps would be depleted quickly so no suckback) just a manual switch would work. Also, it seems that a transistor with sufficiently high voltage/amperage ratings would do the trick. Why SCRs?
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jnbrex
Fri Jun 15 2012, 05:25AM
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Mechanical switches will weld together because of arcing, and SCRs can handle much higher peak currents than any type of transistor that costs the same amount of money.
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Yanom
Fri Jun 15 2012, 07:41PM
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jnbrex wrote ...

Mechanical switches will weld together because of arcing

what are the voltage/current conditions required to produce this? Is it dramatic or invisible? I feel the need to test this now.
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Josh Campbell
Fri Jun 15 2012, 09:40PM
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It depends on the switch.
If you want to use a switch the best I've found for this set up is the ball bearing type. Basically it's just a ball bearing mounted over two heavy contacts and the ball is held up with a spring. Push down on the ball to short the contacts. These can take a licking and keep on, well shorting out caps.

Just make sure to keep one hand behind your back since your thumb will be come part of the circuit if the ball makes contact with one side of the terminal before the other. ;)
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Barry
Sat Jun 16 2012, 12:31PM
Barry Registered Member #90 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:44PM
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Yanom wrote ...

I finally learned how an SCR works (yay circuit simulator) , but now I'm curious. Why do people use these to switch on the current for coilguns? It seems for a single-stage coilgun (no sophisticated timing, and the caps would be depleted quickly so no suckback) just a manual switch would work. Also, it seems that a transistor with sufficiently high voltage/amperage ratings would do the trick. Why SCRs?
A couple properties of SCRs are very attractive.
  • SCRs automatically go into saturation with no special drive circuits; transistors require careful attention to design sufficient drive with correct timing.

  • Large SCRs are cheap and plentiful.

  • SCRs conduct one single half-cycle of current and then turn themselves off; you would have to provide the timing circuit for a transistor.


Yanom wrote ...

It seems for a single-stage coilgun (no sophisticated timing, and the caps would be depleted quickly so no suckback) just a manual switch would work.
You over-simplify. A good coilgun will have low resistance and therefore a long ringdown, causing the DSE (dreaded suckback effect) unless you also provide a timing circuit. A mechanical switch might work, but if it does then it won't yield optimum or repeatable performance, and will tend to burn or fuse its contacts.

(Your link is malformed and should instead be http://falstad.com/circuit )

Cheers, Barry
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