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HV Enthusiast
Fri Jul 28 2006, 02:27PM Print
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If the sun were to instananeously disappear, how long would it take for the Earth to lose its orbit??
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Steve Conner
Fri Jul 28 2006, 02:31PM
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Why, are you guys at Lockheed Martin thinking of blowing it up? confused
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Alex
Fri Jul 28 2006, 02:38PM
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The earth would move on a path tangential to it's previous path as soon as the sun disappeared (from our point of view). In reality, however, the sun would have disappeared some time ago, it just takes time for the effects of it's light/gravity (or lack thereof) to reach us.

There is probably some math to be done there, but the problem isn't that interesting.
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Marko
Fri Jul 28 2006, 02:39PM
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Sayng you teleport the sun somehow away and it's gravitational effect dissapears, it's logical to think that earth would continue route on straight line tangential to previous orbit.

ps. it would probably take some 8 minutes before earth actually 'feels' the gravitional wave (dissaperance of the sun's field) .
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Madgyver
Fri Jul 28 2006, 02:39PM
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I guess instananeously like the mysterious disappearance of the sun? Without gravitational force there is no Orbit but linear movement and Interaction with the other Planets.
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Alex
Fri Jul 28 2006, 03:02PM
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Hmm, after googling a bit, it seems that it may be a bit more complicated than that. The sun's gravity well wouldn't simply disappear, it would reverberate as it returned to a normal state.

Assuming the 'rubber mat' theory (with gravity well dimples and whatnot, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about...) is true, and it most likely isn't, what happens when a gravity well reverberates and turns into a gravity lump? Anti-gravity? Note that considering this idea is crimethink, and therefore off limits to proles and party members until it is corrected by the Minitrue historical division.
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HV Enthusiast
Fri Jul 28 2006, 03:03PM
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Yes, but would it really be instantaneous? Would the effects of gravity occur faster than the speed of light?



Steve Conner wrote ...

Why, are you guys at Lockheed Martin thinking of blowing it up? confused

Sorry, Steve. Thats not my department, so I wouldn't really know. Right now i'm designing power supplies for the F-22 Raptor (lots of firepower), and working on the Ballistic Missile Defense program (lots of firepower against even more firepower), and provided Lockheed wins the contract for the new CEV space shuttle this coming month, I'll likely be relocating to Colorado to design power systems for the new space shuttle (maximum firepower) Plus, i'm sure even if Lockheed was planning on blowing up the Sun, i wouldn't have sufficient security clearance for that program. tongue
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Marko
Fri Jul 28 2006, 03:28PM
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I don't know if anything ''strange'' would actually happen, and only assumption we make is dissaperance of the sun (with logical dissaperance of it's gravitational field with it).

Yes, but would it really be instantaneous? Would the effects of gravity occur faster than the speed of light?


Definitely not, the gravitational wave would need some 8 minutes to reach, travelling by speed of light.
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Simon Barsinister
Fri Jul 28 2006, 09:52PM
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welcome to your new orbit around Jupiter
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Alex
Fri Jul 28 2006, 10:50PM
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Haha Simon. We just need someone to light it on fire now...

EastVoltResearc wrote ...

but would it really be instantaneous?
I didn't say that.

Alex wrote ...

...it just takes time for the effects of it's light/gravity (or lack thereof) to reach us.
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