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ljfa321
Sun Feb 26 2012, 01:38AM Print
ljfa321 Registered Member #4455 Joined: Sun Feb 26 2012, 12:49AM
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Hi,
I'm working on a AL coin or AL disc flipper kind of design I found a while ago.
Here is the video:


Instead of working like a gun, this just simply flip the coin into the air, and that is all I need.
From the video, it looks like only one disposable camera capacitor was used.
However I was not able to reproduce the result with the same setup (base on what I see in the video since the video is lack of some detail).
Assume he just use the camera as what normally do in a simple coil gun, than the only part I'm not sure about my setup will be my coil.
I'm have tried few coil design; flat one layer disc coil, coil with metal center, and even try to wind the coil messy like in the video.
Can anyone give me a hand here on what I might did wrong? And what's the best way to wind the coil to enable it to flip the AL disc (2cm Diameter, 1g, hopefully can lift up to 10g) high? ( I'm using 22, 26, or 30 gauge magnetic wire, will thicker the better? )
Also, will it help if I use washer type AL disc (with hole in the middle)?
Any help will be appreciated.


Thanks,
Jason
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Turkey9
Sun Feb 26 2012, 04:43AM
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There's no way he just used one camera battery for that much energy. Most likely it was a bank of five or ten.
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Legit_bacon
Sun Feb 26 2012, 05:38AM
Legit_bacon Registered Member #4034 Joined: Thu Jul 28 2011, 10:41PM
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from my experience with washer launchers you should use about ~20 turns of the size of your washer with a hole in the middle
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ljfa321
Sun Feb 26 2012, 10:25AM
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Turkey9 wrote ...

There's no way he just used one camera battery for that much energy. Most likely it was a bank of five or ten.

I'm guessing because Japanese dollar coin is super light, only around 1g.

But more capacitor works for me.
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ljfa321
Sun Feb 26 2012, 10:28AM
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How about using magnet as projectile?

Is there any setup that can send magnet fly in the air?

Will try to make a simple electromagnet tomorrow and see if I can flip a magnet into the air.
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pauleddy
Mon Feb 27 2012, 12:37AM
pauleddy Registered Member #2909 Joined: Wed Jun 09 2010, 12:31AM
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i have made somthing similar to this it in this post from a wile back
pauleddy wrote ...

ok here is a short video i made, ther is a big magnet, the veiwing film and disk lanching sorry for the lack of sound i was tired and did'nt feel like narrating.
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here is a few pics of the guts of it the large switch is to use the terminals on the side.
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here is the coil, it did look better when i had a clear CD over it but that brook off so duct tape will do
Th


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ljfa321
Mon Feb 27 2012, 06:23AM
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pauleddy wrote ...

i have made somthing similar to this it in this post from a wile back...........


Thanks, thats exactly what I want to make, can you tell me what gauge wire are you using, how many layer in the coil, and how many volt in total?

Thank
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ben5017
Mon Feb 27 2012, 11:22PM
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does the ring have to be AL? what would happen with a ferris matl.
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pauleddy
Tue Feb 28 2012, 12:21AM
pauleddy Registered Member #2909 Joined: Wed Jun 09 2010, 12:31AM
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that little metal ring is AL but it was just a spacer, umm i don't know if a iron metals will help vary much the pulse time is too quick i think. most non-ferris metals will lanch but AL and CU work the best, the gauge is i think is about 12 or 14??? i will have to check, voltage is what ever the disposible camra chager puts out i think 300-400V, the coil is 2 layers 20 each so about 40 turns. this was a demo device i bult for a science project back in high school that i used a bigger varible disk lancher.
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ljfa321
Tue Feb 28 2012, 05:42AM
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OK, thank a lot!
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