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ben5017
Mon Feb 13 2012, 09:36PM Print
ben5017 Registered Member #3315 Joined: Thu Oct 14 2010, 04:23PM
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i am trying to work out the best way to make a semi auto mechanism for my new multi stage coilgun. I am looking for suggestions/links to other similar projects and ideas. i need something to smack my projectiles out of the clip, down the barrel and to trigger the optical switch.

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Ben Solon
Mon Feb 13 2012, 11:07PM
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Gravity fed? design it so that when you press the trigger, it pulls a pin which allows a slug to fall into the chamber. or a pump action sort of thing where the pump pulls the pin, then the trigger shoots it. A pump action coil gun... XD that just SOUNDS awesome!!
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ben5017
Mon Feb 13 2012, 11:25PM
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it is not gravity feed, attached is a design i made. orange is the nerf gun clip i modded . yellow is the cap chargers. i have yet to make the stock which is where the injector solinoid will be. as you can see i need to get the shels moving forward out of the clip to activate the 3 optical switches. i want to be able to inject the shells with just the battery and not use additional caps if i dont have too.
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Turkey9
Tue Feb 14 2012, 02:55AM
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
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Any kind of solenoid should do; you're not looking for efficiency. Just make sure it has a spring in it to pull the plunger back in after it kick the projectile out of the clip.
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Forty
Tue Feb 14 2012, 07:50AM
Forty Registered Member #3888 Joined: Sun May 15 2011, 09:50PM
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You can turn a pull solenoid into a push by drilling out through the back of the solenoid and attaching an aluminum bar to the plunger. then put pins in the aluminum and plunger to restrict the range of motion you want (and so it doesn't fly out either end of the solenoid.) last, add a spring between the solenoid and the plunger pin so it returns to it's initial position.
Or you could find/buy yourself a push solenoid and, if necessary, rewind it to pack a bigger punch.
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Pinkamena
Tue Feb 14 2012, 02:18PM
Pinkamena Registered Member #4237 Joined: Tue Nov 29 2011, 02:49PM
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Why not make a spring-loaded mechanism? I imagine that would be much easier than using a solenoid. You could use a tube with a cap in one end, and a spring fastened to the cap. Shove your projectile into the tube, and lock it with a pin or something.
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Saz43
Tue Feb 14 2012, 04:49PM
Saz43 Registered Member #1525 Joined: Mon Jun 09 2008, 12:16AM
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ben5017 wrote ...

it is not gravity feed, attached is a design i made. orange is the nerf gun clip i modded . yellow is the cap chargers. i have yet to make the stock which is where the injector solinoid will be. as you can see i need to get the shels moving forward out of the clip to activate the 3 optical switches. i want to be able to inject the shells with just the battery and not use additional caps if i dont have too.
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I like your design, it looks very efficient in terms of space and parts usage. I think a 12V solenoid with a spring return would be the best way to inject your projectiles if you want to have semi-automatic operation. You'll just want to be sure that the solenoid can hit your projectiles with enough force to knock them out of the magazine and all the way to your first coil.
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ben5017
Mon Feb 27 2012, 09:14PM
ben5017 Registered Member #3315 Joined: Thu Oct 14 2010, 04:23PM
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my solenoid came in. what do you think the 3rd lead is for?, there was no spec sheet on the site when i ordered it... do i need to put a back emf protection diode to protect the battery? or jus hook it up?
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ben5017
Mon Feb 27 2012, 09:17PM
ben5017 Registered Member #3315 Joined: Thu Oct 14 2010, 04:23PM
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quick update on the design of the gun the injector will be used on
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Saz43
Tue Feb 28 2012, 12:17AM
Saz43 Registered Member #1525 Joined: Mon Jun 09 2008, 12:16AM
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The third lead may just be connected to the case, can you check it with a multimeter? You should connect an anti-parallel diode across the solenoid terminals, since it is an inductor. This is necessary to protect your switch rather than the battery.
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