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Desmogod
Wed May 24 2006, 01:09AM Print
Desmogod Registered Member #139 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 11:01AM
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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It's often read on websites to "Google for it you eejit". This is all well and good, but I was just wondering what everyones google buzzwords and syntax where.
i.e. When looking for homemade stuff (Tesla coils, turbo based turbines, pulsejets etc) Do you use the words "Homemade, DIY", or something else?
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HV Enthusiast
Wed May 24 2006, 01:11AM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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use them all. when searching effectively you want to try as many things as possible, especially when it comes to obscure subjects. there is no one simple answer.
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Simon
Wed May 24 2006, 02:26AM
Simon Registered Member #32 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 08:58AM
Location: Australia
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When I'm unsure I often Google multiple times - the first few just to get a "feel" for what's out there and to refine my query.
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Alex
Wed May 24 2006, 02:39AM
Alex Geometrically Frustrated
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Cesiumsponge mentioned in the chatroom that he wasn't finding much in marx gens until he searched for impulse generators. Apparently that gets good results.

The more general advice has already been given, I suppose. Just google multiple times and let your results guide you.
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Cesiumsponge
Wed May 24 2006, 04:32AM
Cesiumsponge Registered Member #397 Joined: Wed Apr 19 2006, 12:56AM
Location: Western Washington
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Indeed. Just try anything and everything. Many things have different names and you'll only get one slice of the pie using any given name.

Tesla coils can be found under the heading of tesla transformers, resonant transformers, etc. Voltage multipliers can be called Cockcroft-Walton, Villard, or Greinacher multipliers, and these can be called cascades or adders as well.
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ragnar
Wed May 24 2006, 04:58AM
ragnar Registered Member #63 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:18AM
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Make use of boolean operators and wildcards...

eg:

+tesla +coil -healing wink

etc
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tecNik
Wed May 24 2006, 11:34AM
tecNik Registered Member #77 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 10:24AM
Location: Leicestershire, England
Posts: 26
The "-" operator is you best friend! The best way to help filter out unwanted content. Also, I've been using google sets more and more. For example. Enter the terms "asus" and "abit" for a massive list of mobo makers.
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Part Scavenger
Wed May 24 2006, 11:54AM
Part Scavenger Registered Member #79 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:35AM
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 673
I use quotation marks extensively to narrow my search.

Homemade, homebrew, homebuilt are my main DIY cards. Homebrew often gets software best. If you're looking for computer drivers or datasheets, I usually put only the mod# in, no manufacturer or anything else. That usually returns the best results.

Also, try different search engines if you can't find what you want. They return different things altogether. Especially if you're doing a picture search.
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Wolfram
Wed May 24 2006, 11:54AM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
Location: Norway
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I mostly search google for chip numbers, and often I only get hits that look insignificant, like pages from large chip warehouses, but sometimes those pages can lead me to alternative part numbers for the part or maybe the part number of an equivalent chip. Searching for this chip number might give me more hits.

Searching for component numbers in google can be troublesome as the text on a chip might say MC68EZ328PU16V, but there might have been a more popular variant of the same chip in a different package or with a different speed (and thus different letters at the end of the part number) with much more available documentation.

Searching google for MC68EZ328PU16V gives mostly uninteresting results, but removing everything after 328 and searching again gives us lots of good pages. This doesn't always work, but it can often work very well.

One thing that annoys me about google is the lack of support for wildcard characters, google only supports wildcard words. When I'm looking for something I've seen earlier using one of the 16F87* PICs, I have to enter the search term "16F870 OR PIC16F870 OR 16F870A OR PIC16F870A OR 16F871 OR PIC16F871 OR 16F871A OR PIC16F871A OR 16F872 OR PIC16F872 OR 16F872A OR PIC16F872A" and so on with the rest of the family names instead of just *16F87*
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Steve Conner
Wed May 24 2006, 12:05PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Why not google for "16F87X" wink
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