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alan sailer
Wed Mar 01 2017, 11:11PM
alan sailer Registered Member #59110 Joined: Mon Apr 11 2016, 04:35PM
Location: Camarillo, California
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I have been working a lot lately on plasma globes/tubes.

This is a video showing the formation of a cool xenon spider. The video is shot at 2000 fps and shows the evolution of the discharge from a more conventional xenon filament discharge to a strange tendril glow. It behaves just like ferrofluid and a magnet.

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Hydron
Thu Mar 02 2017, 02:09PM
Hydron Registered Member #30656 Joined: Tue Jul 30 2013, 02:40AM
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that looks fantastic, thanks for sharing it
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Sulaiman
Thu Mar 02 2017, 03:28PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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I spent ages playing with a ccfl inverter and a xenon flash tube;

it must be that p.d is low enough that, at low current, the arc tries to lengthen itself by curling into a helix :)

I believe you Mr Paschen !
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Justin
Fri Mar 03 2017, 01:05AM
Justin Registered Member #46164 Joined: Wed May 07 2014, 08:16AM
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That looks amazing
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alan sailer
Fri Mar 03 2017, 02:58AM
alan sailer Registered Member #59110 Joined: Mon Apr 11 2016, 04:35PM
Location: Camarillo, California
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Sulaiman,

Yes arcs in xenon flashtubes are amazing. I have a longer tube form a high power YAG laser that has really fantastic structure when excited with HV AC. This tube also
has a prominent after glow that I can't explain.

As far as the filament structure, that curving wavy line I believe Carl Willis is correct when he blames it on convection currents. Of the three gases that
I've used in plasma tubes, neon has the least filament structure ven at high pressure, krypton better at 100 torr or so and good old xenon looks fantastic at 50 torr.
When you look at the thermal conductivity of these three it's right in line with the effect.

This is the same globe, normal video with some narration.

Link2

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