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If you like Bipolar Tesla Coils

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Dr Hankenstein
Mon May 02 2016, 06:10AM Print
Dr Hankenstein Registered Member #1642 Joined: Sun Aug 17 2008, 11:36PM
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Here's the link to the build of our Hellcat Bipolar Tesla coil @ Link2

Kind regards,
Dr. Hank
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Mads Barnkob
Mon May 02 2016, 06:26AM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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Wonderful pictures of a nice piece of coil.

Do you have more pictures detailing the bridge build?
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Sulaiman
Mon May 02 2016, 06:59AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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WOW !

Nice work.

just curious, what attracts you to bipolar coils ?
(I've never made one, and never will at your scale :)

P.S. in terms of mechanical strength, left-right forces on the secondary go to bending the 'tombstones'
maybe some sort of diagonal struts / triangles ... at least for transport/movement.

P.P.S. how is the audio with 27 kHz resonant frequency ?
(a very sharp, low-pass audio filter with a cut-off of 10 to 12 kHz before your 'modulator' may help)
(something like two of these in series, datasheet gives an example)
Link2
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Dr Hankenstein
Tue May 03 2016, 06:28AM
Dr Hankenstein Registered Member #1642 Joined: Sun Aug 17 2008, 11:36PM
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Thank you for the kind words!

As far as photos of the actual bridge go; I'm not sure what I have in my archive.

And for the second question: Originally struts, bracing, etc. was part of the project (they were in fact manufactured) and considered as a "must have" requirement for holding the Tesla Coil intact. We discovered after installation of the secondary that the Poly carbonate (Lexan) tombstones were so strong, that no extra bracing would not be required.

Third question: Why Bipolar? My answer:

1) no earth ground required; only equipment grounding.

2) very low overall power consumption. It appears that the bipolar type of Tesla Coils draw about one fourth the power of a similar output quarter wave resonator for the same amount of spark. (At least this has been our experience)

Last but not least:

Audio at 27khz: Incredible Bass; sounds like a 500kv substation switch being opened, it's bad ass!

Kind regards,
Dr. Hank
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nzoomed
Tue May 03 2016, 09:19AM
nzoomed Registered Member #54503 Joined: Sun Feb 22 2015, 10:35PM
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Dr Hankenstein wrote ...

Thank you for the kind words!

As far as photos of the actual bridge go; I'm not sure what I have in my archive.

And for the second question: Originally struts, bracing, etc. was part of the project (they were in fact manufactured) and considered as a "must have" requirement for holding the Tesla Coil intact. We discovered after installation of the secondary that the Poly carbonate (Lexan) tombstones were so strong, that no extra bracing would not be required.

Third question: Why Bipolar? My answer:

1) no earth ground required; only equipment grounding.

2) very low overall power consumption. It appears that the bipolar type of Tesla Coils draw about one fourth the power of a similar output quarter wave resonator for the same amount of spark. (At least this has been our experience)

Last but not least:

Audio at 27khz: Incredible Bass; sounds like a 500kv substation switch being opened, it's bad ass!

Kind regards,
Dr. Hank


How exactly do these work in relation to a normal DRSSTC?
Is there anything different i have to do with the driver etc?

I imagine the physics are alot different in the coil ratio?
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Dr Hankenstein
Wed May 04 2016, 07:21PM
Dr Hankenstein Registered Member #1642 Joined: Sun Aug 17 2008, 11:36PM
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To answer your question, they both work the same. The bridges are interchangeable.
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Kizmo
Wed May 04 2016, 07:36PM
Kizmo Registered Member #599 Joined: Thu Mar 22 2007, 07:40PM
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I have always wondered how one should tune a bipolar DRSSTC. Could you shine some light on it for us please? :)
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nzoomed
Wed May 04 2016, 09:25PM
nzoomed Registered Member #54503 Joined: Sun Feb 22 2015, 10:35PM
Location: New Zealand
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Kizmo wrote ...

I have always wondered how one should tune a bipolar DRSSTC. Could you shine some light on it for us please? :)


Yes im wondering the same thing.

I might build one, i wonder if there is a way of multiplexing a MIDI stereo signal through one in such a way that you could use it as a left and right channel on the same unit?


Is this possible?
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redruM69
Wed Jun 15 2016, 05:03PM
redruM69 Registered Member #31557 Joined: Tue Aug 06 2013, 02:38AM
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I noticed you put metal flake in the varnish on the secondary. Wouldn't this greatly increase the chance of insulation breakdown?
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woodchuck
Wed Jun 15 2016, 05:30PM
woodchuck Registered Member #39190 Joined: Sat Oct 26 2013, 09:15AM
Location: Boise National Forest
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Are you sure you didn't trigger the 1 Nov earthquake? :)

Your shop/lab/garage/living room is outstanding.
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