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Diable Tonnere – my latest project.

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Daniel Uhrenholt
Sat May 29 2010, 09:23AM
Daniel Uhrenholt Registered Member #125 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:52PM
Location: Aalborg, Denmark
Posts: 155
Hi all,

It's been a while since my last update, my girlfriend just moved in, so now I'm trying to have a life besides just doing fun projects:-)

First of all there is a battle of who will have first light between Finn and I, but I think it is Finn that gets the credit for that, because I have to move all of my stuff to another city before I can make sparks all day long:-) I live in a small apartment in Aalborg, and the coil takes half of the space in the bedroom...

Here are some pictures of the water cooling for the new H bridge, and the new bus for the capacitors. I wanted water cooling because of bad design from the beginning, as there wasn't enough space for the bridge I had in hand, and it is cool when I can make this kind of things myself:-)

1275124680 125 FT74660 Cooling

1275124680 125 FT74660 Cooling1

1275124680 125 FT74660 Bus


I also had to make myself a new toroid for the coil, so I made a drawing of the rings I needed and went to the local metal college, and had some students make the rings for me. Then I welded the parts together at the University, and had to transport the toroid by bus to get it home:-)

1275124766 125 FT74660 Toroid

1275124766 125 FT74660 Toroid1

1275124766 125 FT74660 Toroid2

1275124766 125 FT74660 Toroid3


And some pictures of the coil as it looks now:

1275124845 125 FT74660 Prim

1275124845 125 FT74660 Prim1

1275124845 125 FT74660 Coil


Another larger project is the motor controllers that I am making for Finn and I. They are build on two Arduino platforms, communicating with ASCII over fiberoptics. The controller box will also have MIDI in it, but I am having some minor problems with the code for that, but I will have it done sometime next week when I get to the University again:-)

1275124889 125 FT74660 Motor Drivers


Now I will go to Hobro to visit Finn and make some stuff on Thumper:-)

Cheers, Daniel
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Steve Conner
Sat May 29 2010, 10:16AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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This looks awesome shades

Just one word of warning: In your bus design, you have the current flowing through the bolts. If they're steel, they'll get extremely hot by induction heating.

Ideally the current path should be all copper and brass, but non-magnetic stainless steel will probably be OK.
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Dalus
Sun May 30 2010, 09:09AM
Dalus Registered Member #639 Joined: Wed Apr 11 2007, 09:09PM
Location: The Netherlands, Herkenbosch
Posts: 512
Wow your picking up speed. Love the idea of directly cooling the IGBT's with water. Is it going to be a closed loop system? And how are you going to tackle corrosion due to the different metals?
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Dr. H.
Sun May 30 2010, 02:59PM
Dr. H. Registered Member #931 Joined: Mon Jul 30 2007, 05:25PM
Location: Bulgaria
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Great job Daniel smile

and that is one CLEAN workshop you have there.

Cheers.
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Daniel Uhrenholt
Sun May 30 2010, 09:06PM
Daniel Uhrenholt Registered Member #125 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:52PM
Location: Aalborg, Denmark
Posts: 155
Steve,

Thanks for the comment.

I don't use the bolts at connections between the bus bars, I have some distance pieces made out of brass hidden under the black plastic:-)

Linas,

I also like the idea of direct cooling of the IGBT`s, the idea came to me while I was working on a set-up for a company who makes the power electronics for windmills. I had a look inside the water cooling system on a 4MW windmill:-) They use direct cooling on their power stacks, and I was so lucky to see how it looked under the HUGE IGBT`s Link2

I don't think that corrosion will be that big a deal, most of the parts is made out of brass, I think that I just have to change the water once a year...

I am still loking for radiators and pumps for it, so for first light it probably just the water hose from my parents garden:-)


Huben,

Thanks:-) It has to look clean when you have costumers running around all day there:-)

Cheers, Daniel
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Dalus
Mon May 31 2010, 08:52AM
Dalus Registered Member #639 Joined: Wed Apr 11 2007, 09:09PM
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Pst I'm not Linas, if your worried about the corrosion you can use those watercooling liquids that are used in PC cooling systems. Those are designed to minimize any redox reactions between the different metals.
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Daniel Uhrenholt
Mon May 31 2010, 09:06AM
Daniel Uhrenholt Registered Member #125 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:52PM
Location: Aalborg, Denmark
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Woops, Dalus i`m sorry about that:-)

I`m looking at some cooling systems for computers, that I would like to use for the coil. But the problem for now is the lack of $$ to use on coiling at the moment. This project has taken a lot of my time and money for some while, and I want some kind of vacation this summer with my girlfriend...

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Dalus
Mon May 31 2010, 09:55AM
Dalus Registered Member #639 Joined: Wed Apr 11 2007, 09:09PM
Location: The Netherlands, Herkenbosch
Posts: 512
Understandable. I have exactly the same problem I do want to continue my coil but everything is going so slowly. A 20 year old student doesn't earn that much. I'll be glad if I can pay for the MMC this year :S
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Finn Hammer
Mon May 31 2010, 09:28PM
Finn Hammer Registered Member #205 Joined: Sat Feb 18 2006, 11:59AM
Location: Skørping, Denmark
Posts: 741
Daniel Uhrenholt wrote ...

I had a look inside the water cooling system on a 4MW windmill:-) They use direct cooling on their power stacks, and I was so lucky to see how it looked under the HUGE IGBT`s

There is an article about the Danfoss way of cooling those very IGBT's in the current issue of Power Systems Design:

Link2

Cheers, Finn Hammer
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Daniel Uhrenholt
Tue Jun 01 2010, 05:45AM
Daniel Uhrenholt Registered Member #125 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:52PM
Location: Aalborg, Denmark
Posts: 155
That fine piece of machined aluminum that we used for the system, is similar to the one seen in the second picture:-)

The university is making a intelligent system for fault detection in the cooling nozzles, this is all about big $$, as there is a lot of money to be saved if they can detect if the nozzles get stopped due to dirt in the system. Burnt IGBT`s in a sea windmill is NOT a cheap thing to replace:-)

Cheers, Daniel
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