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Lucifer
Wed Sept 09 2009, 02:54PM
Lucifer Registered Member #2351 Joined: Wed Sept 09 2009, 02:43PM
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Hye Marko & strider,
I am new here...I am working same project with strider on a wireless electricity project for my final year project but using router 802.11g as a transmitter (2.4Ghz). Any idea? The receiver can receive the frequency 2.4Ghz ? How can i build the receiver for frequency from the router? can someone help me...please...
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strider
Thu Sept 10 2009, 12:18AM
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Lucifer you need to receive your signal using a router? what amount of power you are sending and what type of devices you are looking to use as load? please give more details so we can have better view to see how we can help
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Lucifer
Thu Sept 10 2009, 05:24AM
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is it possible to build the receiver which can receive the signal from router ? i need the power to charge a moble phone...
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strider
Thu Sept 10 2009, 11:13AM
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you need a harvesting circuit cause router power level is very low (micro to pico Watt).. Try to see Powercast Technology it will give you some help, also if you need further help you can reach me through my msn and skype posted on the post with pics above
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Curtis
Thu Sept 10 2009, 07:27PM
Curtis Registered Member #883 Joined: Sat Jul 07 2007, 01:02PM
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I think that this technology is in use ore than we think about in our everyday lives. It is the principal used in rfid tags used for loss prevention in stores. Just yesterday i say an induction charger for wii remotes where you just set the controller on the charging pad in any orientation to charge it.
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Scott Fusare
Fri Sept 11 2009, 02:37PM
Scott Fusare Registered Member #531 Joined: Sat Feb 17 2007, 10:51AM
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A quick prototype I put together at work as a concept demonstrator a year or so ago.


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The low Q obtained with the printed planar inductor limited the overall range to ~30cm when using a third "repeating" resonator. This is running 2 watts at 1 MHZ input from a tiny class E oscillator. A larger high Q system was eventually built that delivered 10s of watts at ~70% transfer efficiency over a 20 cm gap.

Personally I don't understand why the MIT team and everyone who has followed believes this is anything new or innovative. Loosely coupled high Q resonators are quite venerable. All the MIT team did was re-describe the process in terms normally reserved for optical processes. Heck, they even won a MacArthur grant for demonstrating something Tesla was photographed doing more than a century ago!
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big5824
Fri Sept 11 2009, 03:45PM
big5824 Registered Member #1687 Joined: Tue Sept 09 2008, 08:47PM
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Can someone explain to me what the MIT team did to improve efficiency and transfer range so much other than ensuring a good frequency match with the recieving coil. (google isnt too consistent)
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Scott Fusare
Fri Sept 11 2009, 04:20PM
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Resonators had measured Q of 1000.

As I said, they really did nothing new.
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Fri Sept 11 2009, 05:49PM
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What the MIT did that was new was publish their findings with a bunch of buzzwords and let the media loose on it. They made no innovation that tesla/marconi/etc (and possibly some of the people before them) didn't think of, and hasn't been well tested/documented by anyone doing RF work.
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strider
Fri Sept 11 2009, 08:14PM
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How about evanescent resonance?? its used but in wireless electricity, also MIT had already admit that the concept is not new however they had make use of it on a good fashion. so if you can do better or make use of good concept in a good project you will gain a lot of respect for that
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