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crashstudio
Thu Jun 11 2015, 03:00AM
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog) wrote ...

Why so much primary?

You should have 5-10 turns of primary and that's it.
Find the resonant freq. of your system at turn 5-7, and adjust your secondary accordingly.

Remember, every excess inch of primary, AND HOOKUP is LOSS.

I followed the same design specs as many others with my power supply and TeslaMap has the primary at 82.9uH tapped at turn 14 -15
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Fri Jun 12 2015, 01:00AM
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I used to follow what everyone else said too, until I realized I could get better results by leading in my own way and doing my own thing.

After this base is done, I will match the secondary to the primary, "by working backward", I get better performance that way.

Matt
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crashstudio
Fri Jun 12 2015, 04:00AM
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog) wrote ...

I used to follow what everyone else said too, until I realized I could get better results by leading in my own way and doing my own thing.

After this base is done, I will match the secondary to the primary, "by working backward", I get better performance that way.

Matt
017f


Well I "learn" backwards. I always start at the top and work my way down. Been learning like this sense I was a kid. Now I want to learn about Tesla Coils so I'm building one and will learn the rest as I go. I'm very intrigued by your design. I'm trying to understand how the inductance and resonance will work with so little turns and so much spacing. I would really appreciate if you could explain, it will help me learn. I for one have never been much for following anyone's lead either unless it was necessary so, like you, I will eventually break off into my own designs.
Also the caps you're concerned about are 2100v microwave oven caps and it's just the A/C conditioner for the low voltage side of the NST. TeslaMap suggests 166uF for PFC and those 2 in parallel read 165uF on my meter.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Fri Jun 12 2015, 04:14AM
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The little red caps on your filter are rated for 2100V? Wow!

With the spacing, the tank inductance will work just fine. It's the combination of L and C, as you already know, that does the trick.
I've got it all matched for the 15/60 NST, I just have to figure out what the Fo is. If it's real low because Lpri is low, I can offset that with Ctopload to lower the Lsec resonance point.

The main goal is always energy transfer. This system should store about 2 Joules of energy, which is pretty decent, and should give me a 5 foot spark.
The large spacing should help to not over-couple the secondary and still produce a fairly strong field that envelops the bottom portion of the secondary. Also with heavy connections, I will avoid a lot of loss. Any wire I have to use is 10 AWG silver teflon wire, which is more like rope!

You can't see it in this photo, but this is the first coil with a hairpin tuner. The travel is only about 20", but that should be enough to give me what I need for fine tuning without the high losses of a tap and tap lead.
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crashstudio
Sat Jun 13 2015, 04:37PM
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog) wrote ...

The little red caps on your filter are rated for 2100V? Wow!


I thought you were referring to the PFC caps in the ac conditioning circuit. The caps on the terry filter are 0.0033uF 1600V Metal Polypropylene
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