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zrg
Fri Aug 01 2014, 01:24PM
zrg Registered Member #4762 Joined: Sun May 06 2012, 05:59PM
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Linas wrote ...

zrg wrote ...


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why driver electronics intentionally have blur added ? what you don't want us to see ? (top right corner)

Well, you know, Tesla coils are a bit of economical bubble here in Russia nowadays, therefore a lot of people are hunting for a cheap and reliable SSTC/DRSSTC schematics. Our group managed to develop a really stable and well-performing one, and there are approved cases of even blurred and low-quality photos of our schematics being thoroughly examined by some interested in that guys cheesey . Sounds paranoid, but I'd prefer not to publish anything related to that driver. And this photo of the box was the only one available on my memory card, so I decided just to blur it finely. Just in case wink

Whole coil assembly.

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Linas
Fri Aug 01 2014, 02:15PM
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
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zrg wrote ...


Well, you know, Tesla coils are a bit of economical bubble here in Russia nowadays, therefore a lot of people are hunting for a cheap and reliable SSTC/DRSSTC schematics. Our group managed to develop a really stable and well-performing one, and there are approved cases of even blurred and low-quality photos of our schematics being thoroughly examined by some interested in that guys cheesey . Sounds paranoid, but I'd prefer not to publish anything related to that driver. And this photo of the box was the only one available on my memory card, so I decided just to blur it finely. Just in case wink


Any good new features, like phase lead, or you some have managed to get out of closed loop and still make good feedback ?
Since in University we developed technique that at start up scans for frequency, where is highest power level, and use that for 50% PWM signal. Now if we use LC circuit, should we care about current feedback , if we just can measure at each startup Fo, and use HRPWM to generate switching frequency, and at this point, iGBT will always work in ZCS ?

I have idea simply to use 100W 50V transformer to scan coil frequency range, and after that switch high voltage for normal operation (and short CT with relay for extra protection), what does members think about that ? Since we don't have any IGBT fail at this time, but coil was used only few times
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Steve Conner
Fri Aug 01 2014, 05:08PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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The resonant frequency falls over the course of the burst as the streamer grows. It also changes suddenly when a ground strike connects. You have to track these changes in real time, so measuring the frequency once at startup isn't good enough.
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zrg
Sat Aug 09 2014, 12:03AM
zrg Registered Member #4762 Joined: Sun May 06 2012, 05:59PM
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Got the coil outside and running. Tomorrow's first big public perfomance. Keep an eye on updates.
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loneoceans
Sat Aug 09 2014, 12:24AM
loneoceans Registered Member #4098 Joined: Fri Sept 16 2011, 09:26PM
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That looks great! I always wanted to make a spirally toroid like the one you made the first time I saw some field diagrams of tokamaks ( Link2 ) but never had the resources (or need really) to build one. I'm glad you pulled it off so nicely smile Looking forward to your public performance!
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Patrick
Sat Aug 09 2014, 03:52AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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very cool torus !

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Linas
Sat Aug 09 2014, 07:41AM
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
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zrg wrote ...

Got the coil outside and running. Tomorrow's first big public perfomance. Keep an eye on updates.
So, can you give any feature set of your DRSSTC controller ?

For toroid, i have very cool idea what i am going to try out. Where is solid extruded polystyrene foam, that is very strong, i will use it to create shell that is impact resistance ( or will need resurfacing after big impact)
i will buy 5cm extruded foam sheets, and with CNC router create layers, after gluing and lot of aluminum tape, it should be perfect
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Steve Conner
Sat Aug 09 2014, 11:44AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Cool! Very stylish toroid too! smile
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zrg
Sat Aug 09 2014, 08:54PM
zrg Registered Member #4762 Joined: Sun May 06 2012, 05:59PM
Location: Russia
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First day over, second day incoming.
Too tired to post anything interesting, so here's single photo.
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zrg
Mon Aug 11 2014, 01:51PM
zrg Registered Member #4762 Joined: Sun May 06 2012, 05:59PM
Location: Russia
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Second day over.
The coil performed nice, maximum registered spark length was around 6 meters. However we didn't have any chance to run it at night, so I'm unable to provide any really spectacular photos or video.
Primary was detuned about 10-15% from secondary resonance, which gave impressive sparks on 200-300 Hz and at the same time failed to play high MIDI notes. Looks like big coils need primary slider motor, like the one on Thumper DRSSTC smile

OCD was on 3600A, maybe 3800. The hottest parts are wires between primary and MMC or bridge (they're 50 mm^2, and that is surely not enough).
Actual power consumption unknown, but I think it must be around 25-30 kW.




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