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Topics like this seem to continuously get brought up now a days, but I would argue its just a case of technology allowing anyone and everyone to become an overnight youtube star.
There has always, and always will be shitty music, its just now it is much more available for people like justin beiber to be granted an un-deserved chance at stardom.
On the flip side, there is still PLENTY of great music being made and listened to. It is just a matter of sifting through the bullshit to find what suits your tastes.
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Mike wrote ...
Topics like this seem to continuously get brought up now a days, but I would argue its just a case of technology allowing anyone and everyone to become an overnight youtube star.
There has always, and always will be shitty music, its just now it is much more available for people like justin beiber to be granted an un-deserved chance at stardom.
On the flip side, there is still PLENTY of great music being made and listened to. It is just a matter of sifting through the bullshit to find what suits your tastes.
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Everyone has different tastes, but the thing is, a whole ****load of people like crap like Justin Bieber. The big corparations will make whatever it is that people are willing to buy, and if that happens to be Justin, then so be it.
But the 'good' music is not going anywhere. It's not like they can go back and erase history. Simon & Garfunkels 'Richard Cory' or 'A hazy shade of winter' sounds just as good today as it did thirty years ago and will keep on doing so forever. The compositions of Jean Sibelius are reaching the 100 year mark, and they still aren't going anywhere, as in
And that good music is still being made. Every year I find atleast one band, or an album, I find worth listening to. It's just a matter of finding them. The signal to noise ratio is admittedly very high, but once you find something you like, you know it's going to stay with you forever.
In the 60's when ABBA and The Beatles were on the radio, people were complaining "why are they playing this crap?" Now both are classics. Maybe in 40 years time Lady Gaga will be regarded the same (though I hope not).
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A lot of things have changed besides people getting older. In the 60's it could cost a years wages for a full day in a studio. It was considered bad form to push people with no talent into a studio.
Another thing that changed is that the people cared about music, the same sort of people exist today but they are completely sidelined by people that want to get rich and famous and are willing to do anything to get to the top. John Peel played great music during the night on Radio London for most of Europe because he cared about music, today the music selection is based on what is expected to bring in the most money.
Because of social and technological changes the proportions have changed completely. So even if it is possible to find large amounts of awful music from any time, it has never been mass produced at such a massive scale with such an efficient distribution network.
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Zb wrote ...
Everyone has different tastes, but the thing is, a whole ****load of people like crap like Justin Bieber. The big corparations will make whatever it is that people are willing to buy, and if that happens to be Justin, then so be it.
I think that the difference is that mega-corporations like Disney directly own many many media outlets, and hold sway over a great many more. Stars like Miley Cyrus, the Jonas Brothers, etc aren't just musicians that young people happen to really like; they're a manufactured product, specifically marketed to young people in a multitude of ways. Such prepackaged music reminds me a lot of prepackaged foods. They're both sort of tasty on the surface and convenient, but they're both over-processed, lacking in substance, extremely homogenized, and dulling to the palate.
Many others, like Justin Bieber, break into the market in a more traditional manner, but fall into the same system once they're there. In either case, the music industry directly manipulates the market by dictating what will be popular. They don't just make whatever people are willing to buy; they tell people what they're willing to buy, and then sell it. It's much more efficient than trying to follow trends in music and then trying to find musicians to make music that people will like.
The good news, as others above have noted, is that this great big and wide-open internet allows us to bypass all that, and find music we really enjoy. There's certainly lots of it out there, if you know where to look. In fact, my regular playlist includes music made by members of 4hv.org.
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