<OT> Freedom of speech vs: The Internet's Dark Side / General Chatting / Forums

Forums

4hv.org :: Forums :: General Chatting

« Previous topic | Next topic »

<OT> Freedom of speech vs: The Internet's Dark Side

first previous 5 6 7 8 next

Move Thread

LAN_403

Chris Russell

Sun Nov 28 2010, 05:01AM

... not Russel!
Registered Member #1 Joined: Thu Jan 26 2006, 12:18AM
Location: Tempe, Arizona
Posts: 1052

The websites that have been seized are pretty hard to miss. See

for an example.

quicksilver

Sun Nov 28 2010, 06:39PM

Registered Member #1408 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 03:49PM
Location: Oracle, AZ
Posts: 679

pauleddy wrote ...

so thats what may have happen to roguesci.org, a site i used to go for chemist stuff but it dissapered one day and i was left without a site to go to for my curiocitys, but it looks from this it was shut down

but when i google reguesci
"Rogue Science Will Rise Again Under Construction. The estimated (re)launch date is 12-21-2010" so maby not

There was no secrecy there; the guy had more important things to do, it costs money better spent on more important things, and there was too many flaming idiots getting in trouble, so the fellow who ran it thought better than to "get shit on his shoes" & have a career-ender in his background, etc. There was nothing special about it's end. iDefense DID indeed try to stop it from disseminating bomb-making instructions; but it didn't cross the line into the Feinstein Bill, etc. The guy simply didn't want to continue it. It's expensive, time consuming, & with people writing posts about worshiping Hitler & killing the neighbor's pet, it was not a positive thing to place on a resume'.
I'd bet against that coming back.

Patrick

Sun Nov 28 2010, 08:20PM

Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
Posts: 5639

More free speech! Not less, that is the answer!

Adam Munich

Thu Jan 13 2011, 11:37PM

Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
Location: Cali-forn. i. a.
Posts: 2242

Oh shi-

This is not good. Not good at all.

quicksilver

Thu Jan 13 2011, 11:59PM

Registered Member #1408 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 03:49PM
Location: Oracle, AZ
Posts: 679

There are 2 differing issues with the "internet ID" issue. One is that even if you think you are anonymous by using a Proxy, you're incorrect. The ability for government to REALLY find out who someone is - is incredible. But it takes money and resources, thus is used for really serious issues. So realistically we are all pretty much "non-anonymous". That's why I don't get paranoid about putting down where I live (in general). Anyone in government could find out if they really wanted to.

But the idea of a National ID "card" and it's integration into health care is a problem as it is a violation of the 4th Amendment IF it's used to determine issues such as insurance eligibility, etc. This issue has been proposed before - but I don't think it can pass Constitutional challenges.

Ash Small

Fri Jan 14 2011, 12:10AM

Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
Location: UK
Posts: 4245

Just another 'commodity' that will be 'traded' on the 'black market'........It won't solve anything.........They've just decided to scrap the proposed ID cards here in the UK.

Adam Munich

Fri Feb 25 2011, 01:34AM

Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
Location: Cali-forn. i. a.
Posts: 2242

More gob'ment internet mayhem is in progress...

Basically they now want the ability to listen to your skype, AIM and facebook chats etc.

and they are going to punish companies that don't comply with wiretap orders.

Sing this to the tune of "ruby tuesday"

Up in Washington, they're having fun.
The peoples' will won't matter, if they won.
We have a bill of rights,
to keep us in the light,
no one cares..
They don't care!

Good-bye first amendment!
No free speech for me or you.
When you say congress is dumb.
feds are gonna rape you!

Patrick

Fri Feb 25 2011, 01:56AM

Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
Posts: 5639

I agree with the issues you raise grenidier, when Obama is doing the same illegal stuff under the guise of the "Partriot Act", that George Bush did. Its interesting that Obama was against it, until he became presisdent, now he wants it expanded, and liberals are fine with it now.

Its not so much the R's vs. D's or the D's vs. R's as it is the powerful agaisnt the people. Both political parties are willing to piss on the constitution to get what they want (control of, possesion of, access to, censorship of ... information).

Adam Munich

Fri Feb 25 2011, 02:20AM

Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
Location: Cali-forn. i. a.
Posts: 2242

Heh, don't get me started on backhanded deals.

One such deal was tacked on the healthcare bill, and starting sometime in 2012 you need to file a 1099 tax form if you exchange more than 600 dollars per year with any online entity. Bet you didn't hear that on CBS news...

Patrick

Fri Feb 25 2011, 02:58AM

Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
Posts: 5639

Obama's communist health care, or CommuCare is/will be a disaster.

first previous 5 6 7 8 next

Moderator(s): Chris Russell, Noelle, Alex, Tesladownunder, Dave Marshall, Dave Billington, Bjørn, Steve Conner, Wolfram, Kizmo, Mads Barnkob