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Avalanche
Sun Sept 26 2010, 11:41AM
Avalanche Registered Member #103 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:16PM
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well you've seen large over-coupled coils, now for my fail - a tiny under-coupled coil cheesey


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Marko
Sun Sept 26 2010, 11:50AM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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TheBoozer wrote ...

Holy cow dude!!! It looks like the secondary was hit by a flame thrower...

Is that all carbon I see???

Rich


Mostly carbon - yeah, large amounts of soot were emitted from the arc fault and spread all over the secondary. The fire melted about 10mm longth of windings and carbonized the form underneath... it wasn't worth fixing till this day.

Avalanche: Did it oscillate at all even with no breakout? What is that chip you were using? (UCC's generally don't make too good TC drivers, IXDD414's do much better)

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803
Sun Sept 26 2010, 01:49PM
803 Registered Member #2807 Joined: Fri Apr 16 2010, 08:10PM
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Also, what's that pink stuff?
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Avalanche
Sun Sept 26 2010, 03:40PM
Avalanche Registered Member #103 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:16PM
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Marko wrote ...


Avalanche: Did it oscillate at all even with no breakout? What is that chip you were using? (UCC's generally don't make too good TC drivers, IXDD414's do much better)


It didn't oscillate... it didn't blow up... it didn't even get warm... in fact it did absolutely sod-all cheesey

The driver chip was an ICL7667, but I think the resonant frequency of that coil was several Mhz and probably completely swamped out by it's own capacitance.
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Dr. H.
Mon Sept 27 2010, 06:08AM
Dr. H. Registered Member #931 Joined: Mon Jul 30 2007, 05:25PM
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The ICL7667 is no were near fast enough. I've had problems with it above 300khz.

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Mads Barnkob
Mon Sept 27 2010, 02:03PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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One of my recent fails (december 2009) was a quickly smacked together DRSSTC using a couple of TO-247 40N60s IGBT...

It was running in high bps going towards CW at 300~KHz, badly out of tune and without any feedback or OCD it was fed the drive signal from a signal generator...

No need to say it died quickly and never gave more than 3-4 cm sparks :D

Video of it dying: Link2
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Blackcurrant
Mon Sept 27 2010, 02:45PM
Blackcurrant Registered Member #2989 Joined: Sun Jul 11 2010, 12:01AM
Location: UK
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my first DC powered tesla coil
Rotary spark gap making the jump to light speed
cause of fault stainless steel being to soft
fix use tungsten welding rods
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Anon01
Mon Sept 27 2010, 04:31PM
Anon01 Registered Member #1589 Joined: Sun Jul 13 2008, 06:40PM
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That's a pretty set of pictures you have Blackcurrant. I've always wondered about how stainless would look in a high energy rotary spark gap... What kind of stainless did you use?

Edit: Forgot my spark gap failure. I eventually had a piece of tungsten fly out of this thing. I'm happy I had a 1/4" Plexiglas box around this thing just in case this happened. The center pieces are 3/16" in dia and the rotor has an overall width of 14" from tip to tip and was rotating at 3600RPM. Unfortunately I do not have any pics of the damage to the box.

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Blackcurrant
Mon Sept 27 2010, 11:11PM
Blackcurrant Registered Member #2989 Joined: Sun Jul 11 2010, 12:01AM
Location: UK
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Hi Anon
think it was M3x20 316 A4 bolt that was melting fast
the tungsten rod (pic with safety screwdriver) worked far better and it would auto balance as it wore down
rotary gap could spin up to about 400Hz and it did have some hard plastic as a shield.
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Crunchy Frog
Thu Sept 30 2010, 05:33PM
Crunchy Frog Registered Member #2422 Joined: Tue Oct 06 2009, 02:41AM
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Grounding fail!

I got so excited that I finally got the class-e amp tuned right that I forgot to add proper rf ground. I had the bottom lead from the coil sticking up inside it to give a stable Fres during tuning. When I turned up the power, I got breakout... from the wrong end! It went FFFFFttt and set the PVC on fire until I pulled the plug. There we little flecks of carbon floating around the lab after that.

Incidentally, what IS the right way to ground in the MHz range?


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