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ZakWolf
Thu Sept 09 2010, 06:30AM Print
ZakWolf Registered Member #3114 Joined: Sat Aug 14 2010, 08:33AM
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i had a 13.8v 7 amp power supply that died so i thought i would try out the transformer to see what the voltage was, i hooked up my multi meter and got about 1 volt dc so i went to ac and it read about 18vac. i read some stuff on half waver rectification connected some diodes and check the dc voltage on my muliti meter, it was about 10v volts i connected it to my ZVS driver and nothing happened so i took off the diodes and tired "ac", i got little tiny spark. what is happening cry
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Patrick
Thu Sept 09 2010, 06:34AM
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go striaght to the transformer wires that are secondary Vac and tell me waht your DMM says the Vac is.
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ZakWolf
Thu Sept 09 2010, 06:45AM
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oops i cant , its kind of dark in my room and i mis read my multi meter and set it on 9v battery i fried it. mad could you guess what the problem is ?
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Patrick
Thu Sept 09 2010, 07:02AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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no, get a new DMM.
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Myke
Thu Sept 09 2010, 07:19AM
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You need to make sure that the diode you have is rated for at least the peak current you are expecting to draw (maybe around 15A with a fuse for a bit of headroom). You should probably use a bridge rectifier because it makes filtering easier. It doesn't seem like you filtered the output of the half wave output. Since you are only getting an output from the diode half of the time, the ZVS driver will be off a lot more than half the time (it starts functioning around 9V I think).

And yes, you need a new DMM.
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ZakWolf
Thu Sept 09 2010, 02:34PM
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would this be a good DMM Link2
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radiotech
Thu Sept 09 2010, 03:25PM
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The 22-811 Radio Shack looks good as an experimenter's meter. As to its value, that would depend your market area and what other meters you can select from with similar specs in the price range.

One marketing trick Radio Shack has done is to discount discontinued models with the price dropping as the remaining stocks are sold. If you pay attention, you could get meters as much as 30 cents on the dollar if you asked the store what the current price is.
I've got class sets of meters that way.

As to the durability of Radio Shack/Micronta/Archer products I've been using them for 50 years and own about 40 of their DMM's, including some sets bashed about/burned out then repaired by learners.

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Patrick
Thu Sept 09 2010, 05:25PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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is this PS a linear or SMPS?

once you get a new DMM, do these:
first, check your transformer secondary output, VAC should be present.
if so then, check the polarised output of the bridge-diode, it should be VDC.

post these answers, we'll solve this systematically. no guesses.
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ZakWolf
Tue Sept 14 2010, 01:28AM
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i bought a 50v 24 amp full bridge rectifier. the only problem is there are 3 out puts 1 black and 2 reds which one do i use ?
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Adam Munich
Tue Sept 14 2010, 01:33AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Personally I love my vintage RSR multimeter. It's all discrete components, and It even survived an accidental 2kW when I accidentally measured voltage on ampere mode. The probes melted though. angry

I suggest getting an RSR or a Fluke. They are very hard to break from my experience.

And please post a pic of the bridge. Can't tell you without a pic.
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