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teravolt
Sat Jul 03 2010, 04:31AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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If I were you go about 4 to 6 turns for each primary and connect the main resonant cap as close to the transformer as possible. Maybe a larger gauge than you are using say 16 or 14. The cap and primary are supposed to form a parallel resonant tank circuit at the frequency of the secondary. To tune it try different values of caps .6 to 2uf. The cap should be a polypropylene, and low ESR, for best performance.

eather of the new diodes should be fine.
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Matt Edwards
Sat Jul 03 2010, 02:07PM
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Try 5+5 turns for the primary and 3+3 turns for the feedback as seen in this schematic. It works vary well.
If you cannot fit all of the turns try a smaller gauge wire. A fairly thick magnet wire (enameled wire) should work find. It will allow you to use a larger gauge wire with less room needed due to the insulation. You will also need to add two 2W or better 100 ohm resistors for the feedback. I would also recommend bumping up the power supply to 24-36V. I do not recommend much higher than that if you would like your flyback to last vary long.


Mazilli2
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aris
Mon Jul 05 2010, 03:30PM
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I have a question!I think to order a toroid inductor or core but i dont know what...First of all what is better ferrite or iron core?Also i see on ebay that all toroid inductors with 47-200uH aren't appropriate for 10A..So what colour of core must i order and with what wire i must wire it to achieve a 10A inductor!And if you know any way to make a appropriate inductor for my circuit let me know!
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aris
Wed Jul 07 2010, 02:49PM
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Can i calculate the number of required turns for a specific inductance if i know the dimensions of the toroid core?
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teravolt
Wed Jul 07 2010, 05:02PM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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this coil is just a choke. find a 1" toroid and load it up with about 50 turns of 22awg
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aris
Wed Jul 07 2010, 06:58PM
aris Registered Member #2871 Joined: Sat May 22 2010, 06:50PM
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teravolt wrote ...

this coil is just a choke. find a 1" toroid and load it up with about 50 turns of 22awg
And how much inductance i will take?Also ferrite or iron toroid?
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HazzWold 1993
Thu Jul 08 2010, 11:34AM
HazzWold 1993 Registered Member #2563 Joined: Mon Dec 21 2009, 10:17AM
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Yes I'm also curious as to that, whether it is iron or ferrite for the toroid. Anyone?
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teravolt
Thu Jul 08 2010, 08:20PM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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I am not shure wether to use ferite or iron powder core I just found a choke that I had laying around. I didn't even mesure it. I am shure it maters but I don't know what the answer is but if i were to make a choice it would be iron because of its use in chokes. hear is my a picture of what i used
1278620446 195 FT91717 Picture 006 Resize

1278620446 195 FT91717 Picture 003 Resize
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aris
Thu Jul 08 2010, 09:25PM
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I have 5 flyback so i think to use them in series/paralell to get a good voltage/current output!Can i connect them driven by the same zvs driver?They will give me good results?Also i think to use one ferrite core of one of my flybacks to make a homemade flyback...With a homemade i will take better results than the original one?
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teravolt
Fri Jul 09 2010, 04:43AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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if you use 5 flybacks thay have to be identical for parallel use. each flyback has its own resonant frequency and step up ratio. In my picture I have 2 in parallel sets 180 deg out of phase. see how close the main cap is, about 2.5uf. The cap should be a poly type cap with low ESR, with other caps you may not be able build the large cirulating currents needed to produce those large outputs. I built one mazillii that had 40kv sparks then the secondary arced. Try one flyback that you can spare and slowly add primary caps once it it is working. if it does not up imediatly swich the wires going to the gates of the fets
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