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Yeeeeha! Microprocessor controlled induction heater

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IamSmooth
Mon Mar 15 2010, 10:47PM
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Well, I solved the uP reprogram issue. I was trying a new power supply, and for some reason the 15v output is unstable. It starts to jump all over the place. I may need a different step-down transformer for the 7815.

My question to those on the board is this now:

I noticed during my power-up on the IH I was getting a lot of noise at high currents. What is the best way to isolate the inverter section? I was thinking of using optocouplers (FOD3180). I was thinking of using one on the pwm output from the uP. I was thinking of using a pair to drive my gate-drive transformer instead of the TC4421 and TC4422.

Also, as of my last attempt, the inverter section was on the same board as my driver circuitry. I plan to put this on a separate board. THis board will contain the gate drive transformer, igbts and snubber capacitors. The connection from the gdt to the driver will be through shielded wire going to the optocouplers.

Does this sound reasonable? Any other suggestions?
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Avi
Tue Mar 16 2010, 04:27PM
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
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That was pretty neat using it for the tuning. i have only used it to PWM the power and change the duty so it very slowly cools liquid wax down over a long period of time.
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IamSmooth
Thu Apr 01 2010, 11:06PM
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I just wanted to update this thread that I have tested my new board, powering the inverter with >1.5kw going through it. The uP controlled resonance lock worked great. The tracing was clean, and did not wobble.

I need to upgrade my power supply to handle a larger more current.

Can I power the induction heater without a rectifier/smoothing capacitor? Can I run it straight off of the mains?
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Killa-X
Fri Apr 02 2010, 12:55AM
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Looks like it runs very well, nicely done! I have the ATMEGA32 and ATMEGA644P models, So if you post your code along with the schematics over time, maybe I could try one :D
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IamSmooth
Fri Apr 02 2010, 01:55AM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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No problem. I want to make sure it survives the 8-10kw test. I already got it to work off of my 240vac line, but only at 1/4 power. I will definitely post the schematics and code. It has taken some time, and help from some here, to come up with the proper filtering.

The trick was to find the balance between clean filtering, without delaying the feedback to the uP.

The next trick to eliminate the noise and cross-talk that was oscillating the operating frequency.

Right now I need to fix my power source.
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wylie
Thu Apr 08 2010, 11:44AM
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Can I power the induction heater without a rectifier/smoothing capacitor? Can I run it straight off of the mains?

Wouldn't the switches explode when the AC passes through the 1st negative half of a cycle? Or would they function like a poorly-synchronized synchronous rectifier?
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Steve Conner
Thu Apr 08 2010, 01:07PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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wylie wrote ...

Wouldn't the switches explode when the AC passes through the 1st negative half of a cycle?
Yes, they would.

You can run without smoothing capacitors, but you need the rectifier and a RF bypass capacitor.
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IamSmooth
Thu Apr 08 2010, 06:06PM
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Is the RF bypass capacitor connected to the AC input to the variac or HV power supply? What do I need?
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Steve Conner
Fri Apr 09 2010, 09:43AM
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Oh come on, try to figure it out yourself for a change! tongue
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IamSmooth
Tue Apr 27 2010, 03:59PM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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I have just passed another milestone: I was able to levitate and boil a SOLID piece of copper. I have to check the power requirements, but I figure it was close to 4-5kw. Those of you may recall that I was able to levitate aluminum and hollow pieces of copper. The copper density was too much for the magnetic field to levitate it with my 1.5-2kw unit, and the PLL resonant lock would not stay completely on-tune, requiring adjustments that I could not make with a boiling piece of metal next to me.

The uP-PLL controlled unit found the frequency and stayed on it all by itself, and even kept the system stable when the copper boiled off.
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