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Mates
Tue Mar 16 2010, 11:46PM
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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Hi,
This is just a small upgrade. Every tweeter needs a horn so made one of standard bulb reflector. First, I had to remove the reflection layer by etching solution. I like the spontaneous blue shine at dark. It looks quite cool.

Mates


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Mates
Wed Mar 31 2010, 09:44PM
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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Work in progress….

Big horns = big sound wink


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Mates
Sat Apr 10 2010, 08:36PM
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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I spent some time in designing the right shape and size of a horn for the sound system. Now it plays really loud ;)
Cheers Mates


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HV Enthusiast
Sun Apr 11 2010, 12:21AM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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Mates wrote ...

I spent some in designing the right shape and size of a horn for the sound system. Now it plays really loud ;)


If you really want to boost the volume and improve bass response, you need to maximize the surface area (volume) of your oiutput arc. Having it formed into a small arc just reduces volume / lower frequency response.

My new Class-E i'm working on runs almost 100% modulation depth, although usually set around 75-80% to ensure no clipping. In this video, its set pretty high (about 95%), which results in high volume, but increased distortion due to clipping.

Here is the video . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cOsFgW8P3M
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GhostNull
Sun Apr 11 2010, 06:20AM
GhostNull Registered Member #2648 Joined: Sun Jan 24 2010, 12:45PM
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This looks very nice. You should make a projects post. Can you post a video with the new improved horns?
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HV Enthusiast
Sun Apr 11 2010, 01:16PM
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You could even incorporate some neon tubing in your horn design to give it extra dazzle.

Or how about a plasma headphone design! Sounds like a patent! :)
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Mates
Sun Apr 11 2010, 08:20PM
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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EastVoltResearch wrote ...

You could even incorporate some neon tubing in your horn design to give it extra dazzle.

Or how about a plasma headphone design! Sounds like a patent! :)


Actually I percept all those shinny LED’s and neon tubes you all here like so much in the tesla coils design as a kind of “chocholate-box art“. It this case the plan is to impress people by the sound quality anyway.

Regarding your headphones idea – LOL. Those horns are made of artificial stone – you would need really strong neck. But it came to my mind also, as a smaller design – higher freq etc. The only unsolvable problem I see is the O3 produced by the discharge – that probably would ruin your inner ear very quickly.

BTW: I run into concurrence recently – in both plasma tweeter design Link2 and also horns design Link2 amazed


And here is the latest video of the system. I noticed it plays so loud that you can hardly hear my commentary – it is a combination of bullshit and my horrible english anyway so don’t worry.
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HV Enthusiast
Sun Apr 11 2010, 09:48PM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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Yeah. Plasma speakers have been around for over 100 years. Nikola Tesla himself, and a few others, have patents on musical PRF modulation of both Tesla Coils and HV arc lamps (1800's). Thats more than 100 years before anyone PRF modulated their DRSSTC.
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Mates
Sun May 09 2010, 07:56PM
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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Hi,
I did a lot of experimneting with different horn desgins and with different materials... I had to solve problems with high temp produced by the plasma and it was not trivial.
I also made a lot of changes in the schematics so now the sound quality even improved significantly (unfortunately you have to believe me in this, or come for a visit ;) ).

Here is a kind of an image "protocol" of how my latest prototype was done

Making the proper horn shape is my own idea. It is based on a large latex ballon, gypsum and vase with cutted bottom.

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The sound chamber is made of pure talc. It was not easy to get it. I had to mine it by myslef in an old quarry. It is amasing material, it can stand 1500C amazed It was glued by a mix of water glass with talc dust. Great glue which can stand high temps. Unfortunately it is not such a good electric isolator as pure talc. Piece of glass was also glued to make kind of window.


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The black color is a special silicon based color for high temps (700C)


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Temporary instalation in my living room. The boxes behind are pair of Celestion SL12 - it is bi-wire system so I can easilly disconnect the tweeters. Sound is just perfect.
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Steve Conner
Sun May 09 2010, 09:16PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Amazing :) I was curious to know how you got/made those horns, but you've answered my question.
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