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Briefcase SGTC --- 1st build ever --- copy of TDU's awesome work

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sportcoupe
Thu Feb 25 2010, 01:29AM Print
sportcoupe Registered Member #2664 Joined: Sat Jan 30 2010, 03:27PM
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This is my first post. Please excuse any errors. Thanks.

I have always had an interest in HV and always wanted to build a TC since I was young. I would love a large one but it's not really practical where I live so a small one, especially my first, was in order. I read and read here and settled on Peters (TDU) briefcase SGTC. It's simple, small and extremely portable.

It uses a 5kv, 20ma neon sign transformer. 3.5" x 7.5" secondary, 10 turn primary, double copper tube SG with 0.025" gaps across each and three banks of two 30KV 1000pf caps. The secondary RF ground is the same as the mains with no problems at all. I also did not use a safety gap. I borrowed a filter from an old microwave oven for the mains to transformer connection. It is almost the most basic SGTC I can imagine.

I don't know how Peter can interact so easily with his briefcase SGTC, mine stings the crap out of my hand when I tried. LOL.

Shot a short video. It's kind of dark though.

5MB in size. Link here.
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brtaman
Thu Feb 25 2010, 01:44AM
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Nice coil sportcoupe! Very clean build.8-) Welcome to the forums.


BTW: You wouldn't happen to be the sportcoupe from over on LPF?
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sportcoupe
Thu Feb 25 2010, 01:46AM
sportcoupe Registered Member #2664 Joined: Sat Jan 30 2010, 03:27PM
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Yes, I am on LPF and am the only sportcoupe there. :)

My 8x blu ray is still kicking well at 500+mw.
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rp181
Thu Feb 25 2010, 02:45AM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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very nice. the only thing I can say is get a black suitcase :)
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teravolt
Thu Feb 25 2010, 04:18AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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welcome to the forum, have you tried a microwave oven transformer insted of the NST. Some put out as much as 1Kw.
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sportcoupe
Thu Feb 25 2010, 09:51AM
sportcoupe Registered Member #2664 Joined: Sat Jan 30 2010, 03:27PM
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I have not tried a MOT yet in a TC. This was my very first TC build. I do have a nice jacobs ladder with a 12K NST though. I was hoping for a very interactive coil but this one isn't so interactive IMO. A MOT isn't current limited as far as I know so another MOT as a ballast would be required correct? Also my mini MMC isn't set up for MOT output. Maybe a second briefcase coil is in order with a MOT now that I got the TC concept down.
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dex
Thu Feb 25 2010, 11:29AM
dex Registered Member #2566 Joined: Wed Dec 23 2009, 05:52PM
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sportcoupe wrote ...

The secondary RF ground is the same as the mains with no problems at all.

That's a very BAD place for RF ground...
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Steve Conner
Thu Feb 25 2010, 12:53PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Well, it may be bad in theory, but in practice many people use the mains ground for low powered coils without any trouble. Do it at your own risk...
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tritium
Thu Feb 25 2010, 07:04PM
tritium Registered Member #2591 Joined: Fri Jan 01 2010, 11:58AM
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if the streamer hits the primary, you are dead!!!

the MOT can connect you via the streamer to earthe!!

you can use the same earth but don't think you can use a tl to touch the streamer as I can see in the picture.

wath out..!
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Arcstarter
Fri Feb 26 2010, 05:41PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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Very neat coil cheesey. That is good performance, especially considering you used those little ceramic capacitors. I have never had anything but trouble with them even in non-tesla coil related duty. They just dislike high current.

I would not recommend a MOT, especially for a little coil. They are heavy indeed. You would need a ballast unless you planned to pull something like 2kw or whatever the MOT is limited to (they are limited, just not very well). You would have tons of current and pretty low voltage. That means a high capacitance bank, though it could be low voltage. The main problem is that the voltage is too low to effectively break down a spark gap. Even if it somehow did break down well, it would probably still be rather ineffective, the spark gap would heat quick and assorted things.

Good work smile
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