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Measuring HV with mA meter?

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klugesmith
Sun Jan 31 2010, 04:45PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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Sounds good. If the resistance value is accurate (120e6) and the current reading is accurate (600e-6) then the average voltage is I * R = 72 kV.
If you want to directly measure average voltage on your x-ray tube, this contraption must go in parallel with the tube. You implied that resistor and meter will go in series with the tube. Then if the voltage source is fixed, the tube operating point will be along a line between 72 kV at no current, and no voltage at 600 uA. Measurable by the meter, and adjustable by filament temperature.

If you are making electrical measurements around a HV-energized x-ray tube, an economical safety element (along with shielding and distance) is an on/off switch for the high voltage source. A plain old power strip with a rocker switch served Henry and me last weekend, in an ad-hoc x-ray lab session. You should be able to take a reading with power on for 1 second.
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Antonio
Sun Jan 31 2010, 07:39PM
Antonio Registered Member #834 Joined: Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:57PM
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600 uA is a lot of current to drain just for measurement purposes. A series string of precision resistors would not arc so easily and would drain less current.
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Myke
Sun Jan 31 2010, 08:51PM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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You might want to look for something along the lines of 50uA for measuring current. Even then, at 60kV, the resistors would be dissipating 3W.
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EEYORE
Mon Feb 01 2010, 03:11AM
EEYORE Registered Member #99 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:10PM
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I know this isnt the best way for measuring voltage, as its intended purpose is to determine how much current the tube is drawing during operation. I was just hoping to kill two birds with one stone. smile

Once I put the tube in, one end of the meter will be grounded while the other end will connect to the cathode/filament of the tube. The 120Mohm resistor is on the anode end of things.

Matt
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HV Enthusiast
Mon Feb 01 2010, 02:48PM
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BTW, you should never rely on the internal resistance of the multimeter as the bottom half of the HV divider.

If the internal meter resistance ever "opened" up, you would have full voltage on your meter which can lead to safety issues, or at the least destroy your meter.

If you are doing this, then you need to float and put your meter where no one can ever touch it.

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Conundrum
Mon Feb 01 2010, 06:54PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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hmm,

i did have an idea to use a shielded internally powered I2C A-D, at the end of an optical fibre. I believe this is how they measure line voltages in the field as it is very reliable.

its feasible to use multicolour LEDs as the signal lines, as each will only respond to its counterpart.

-A
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