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ShawnLG

Mon Nov 09 2009, 06:25PM

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I have picked up one of these things at the local farmers market for a quarter. It is a digital photo frame. These things just sit on your night stand or shelf and suck up electricity 24/7. The one I got has a small 3" LCD screen. Judging from the heat it puts out, I guss it is using at least 5 watts. God know how many watts those big ones use. I have read on the net that more than 8 million where produced in 2007. Lets say that all of them use 5 watts. Combined together, they would waste 40 million watts of electricity running 24/7!!! How many additinal power plants do we need to run these things? Thats only for the ones sold in 2007. Popularity for these fraims is still growing. What happend to going 'green' and what about global warming? I have not even touch on the e-waste problem and the murcury used in the backlights. Sorry for the rant.

brtaman

Mon Nov 09 2009, 06:43PM

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I was sure this would be a thread about a TC plasma speaker. :)

Agreed though horrible waste of energy, to be powered in huge part by coal power plants, not touched by the greens who see the car as the only culprit. Lovely.

Renesis

Mon Nov 09 2009, 07:08PM

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I picked up this cheap radio alarm clock about a year ago. It has lazers that project the time of day and in/out temperatures on the ceiling, witch i found to be pretty cool. According to the specs it does actually consume 5 watts.

Bilde0032

40MW, it shure seems high, but this is after all on a global scale. Theyre building a large wind power plant not far from where i live now, if im not making a fool out of myself each turbine can produce some 2,5MW. Most windturbines are small in comparison, but imagine the thousands upon thousands of turbines scattered all over the world?

It is a waste, no doubt about that, and the real number is likely to be much higher than 40MW. But considering all the terrawatts that are constantly produced and consumed, isnt this really just a fart in high winds?

People keep saying that a cell phone charger consumes just as much power while charging a phone as it does if it is merely plugged in the wall. Is this true? Arent people mistaking apparent power with true power? I would presume that a phone charger has a pretty high Q, as it is basically a transformer.

Chris Russell

Mon Nov 09 2009, 07:19PM

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Looks like anywhere from 6-11 watts is pretty standard for these. I wouldn't say they're the most wasteful electronic gadget out there, but that does seem fairly wasteful compared to a regular old wood and glass frame which costs much less to manufacture, nothing to run, and whose components can mostly be recycled or allowed to biodegrade. They're available for around $1.

GeordieBoy

Mon Nov 09 2009, 08:14PM

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You don't have to leave it on all the time!

As a viewing device it is surely a lot less power hungry and quicker than booting up your PC to look at your holiday snaps!

-Richie,

3l3ctrici7y

Mon Nov 09 2009, 10:09PM

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The short answer to.. ? "What happend [sic] to going 'green' and what about global warming?" is that it is a wide spread scam to get you to do with less, that costs more, doesn't work as well, and have a bigger, more controlling and more intrusive government; and not only tolerate it, but demand it in the name of stopping this calamity; Global Warming.

I heard and ad on the radio recently for a lumber yard trying to sell home insulation. The voice said "we all want to reduce our carbon foot print...".
I thought to myself; uh, no. How presumptuous to propose that "we all" want to do such a stupid and meaningless thing. Talk about group "think".

I have been thinking of various ways of trying to convince the Global Warming/Climate Change fools that they're just being duped, and have come up with what I think is an effective approach. They like him because they're told to, but don't understand what he was. If the knew and liked it, they would not be supporting what he was directly opposed to.

Previously, I had realized that since most of these people don't really know much, they only know what sound bites they hear and what their friends say which is basically what they heard on the radio, in movies, or some "news" outlet that only partially veil their agenda of pushing GW. They're basically following the group mentality. So what one would do is simply say that the group is waking up and realizing that a scam GW is; facts did not lead them to *believe* in GW and fact will not get them out of the fog that their in.

My latest plan is slightly different, but could easily be combined with the first. The people pushing GW that know the sore and use naive followers to
help advance their agenda are displaced socialists and anti-capitalists from various socialist experiments (which always fail). All you need do is look at their agenda.. it always yields higher prices, more government control and power, and reduced quality of life for everyone. Being that most of the followers (that do not know the score) have also been constantly told that "special interests", lobbyists, and "big business" is/are bad.. all you have to do is cite some examples of how big business and special interests used their paid lobbyists to purchase laws that make you throw out your old perfectly working items and buy new ones. With how things last so long these days, that needed a way of getting you to replace what was old, but still working perfectly.
Cash for clunkers is a good example. Rather than my typing out another paragraph, just Google it and see for yourself.

Algore, pushes global warming, but rather than any sort of altruistic ends,
he is doing it purely for is own selfish monetary gain through his carbon offset/credit scam. He knows the score, he knows its a scam. He relies in naive, but well meaning people to advance his agenda.

It's like these fools that buy tee shirts with a likeness of Che on it. He was a mass murder in the name of socialism (anti-capitalists) and now capitalists are using his mug to sell tee shirts.

All you have to do is ask yourself; this whole thing came onto the scene in the last 3-4 years; and in that time all the major media outlets have jumped on the band wagon. Consider that it is not what it is being presented as.

Perhaps you think cap and trade is good? Being that India and China are not going along with it (two countries that are trying to become less third world), that should give you a clue. That not being enough, consider that it will be yet one more way for the rich to get richer on the backs of the poor (I'm using my method on you I outlined above). Companies that emit less carbon than their allowance, will sell the carbon credits to companies that are needing to emit more carbon than their allowance. This will be done through wall street as commodities trading, and they will take their cut (the rich getting richer). The companies having higher costs, will pass that on to you in the form of higher prices. (on your backs)

You can read the papers written by the various madmen of history; Stalin, Hitler, Marx, Mao, and so forth.. and they all say that to control a population, they must be constantly occupied being afraid of something. In this case, that is global warming.

--sarcasm--
Furthermore, what's your beef with Hg? From what I understand, it's good for you; they put it in vaccines after all. It's in these "eco friendly" CFL lamps. With those two points, it's clearly not the health hazard that was once made out to be; when President Bush undid the executive order that Mr. Clinton signed shortly before leaving office relating to Hg in fish.
--sarcasm--

About the rich; they make products and services for you to buy that enhance your lifestyle, and employ people to design those products, assemble, market, transport, and sell. They hire blue collar people to build their houses and yachts. They hire people to maintain those same items. While you're feeling some class envy about those that have more than you, just remember that that don't just sit on their money; they spend it on products and services and that ultimately leads to the money trickling down into your pocket.

Just remember; it was global cooling in the 70's, it was global warming in the 90's and 00's, but since we're in a cooling trend now, even GW isn't working out for them. They had to come up with something even more nebulous "climate change". You don't have to concern yourself with the details, you simply have to know that it's bad and without immediate action (in the form of higher taxes and more gov control) the sky is going to come crashing down.

I think that's enough for now.
What ever you do; think hard about a topic when you find that everything you see and hear tells you to *believe* this or that.

Bjørn

Mon Nov 09 2009, 10:32PM

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So your great plan is to trade in replace everything old with something new. Next time put your plan in the first sentence then click post, it will be easier for everyone.

MinorityCarrier

Mon Nov 09 2009, 10:41PM

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3l3ctric17y, this is a scientific website. You have, in the body of your tome, made statements not supported by scientific studies, e.g. "we're in a cooling trend" (we are not), "this whole thing came onto the scene in the last 3-4 years" (I know of reports from 1986 warning of CO2-induced global warming).

What are the sources of your definitive statements, what scientific reports, papers, etc?

If you want to spew nonsense, DRE's, and coal-industry disinformation, don't expect it to be tolerated here for very long.

Backyard Skunkworks

Mon Nov 09 2009, 11:29PM

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Talk about wasteful, I recently got a "new" (more like ten year old) cable box from Comca$t, a motorola DCT2000. The thing draws 35 watts of power and due to having S-Video and Digital Audio disabled, has the same features as the DCT700, a much smaller box that sips only 11 watts.

Dennis Rogers

Tue Nov 10 2009, 12:19AM

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Backyard Skunkworks wrote ...

Talk about wasteful, I recently got a "new" (more like ten year old) cable box from Comca$t, a motorola DCT2000. The thing draws 35 watts of power and due to having S-Video and Digital Audio disabled, has the same features as the DCT700, a much smaller box that sips only 11 watts.

Cable boxes are brutal, I can practically iron clothes on mine! I'm going to put my amprobe on it and see what it's up to.

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