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Conundrum

Sun Oct 04 2009, 10:35AM

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Makes me wonder if EHS should be reclassified as a psychosis and be done with it.

The worrying thing is, companies are making a fortune selling "Tesla crystal EMF blockers" etc which do absolutely nothing, purely to exploit people who are basically mentally ill. It should be illegal under some law or other to do with Trades Descriptions, surely.

These people if allowed to continue, will get Wi-fi out of public areas, homes etc.

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-A
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Proud Mary

Sun Oct 04 2009, 11:49AM

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If anything, this is further proof of the very poor standards to which the scientific education of the young has fallen in Britain and Ireland. So far as I know, the previously separate subjects of chemistry, physics and biology have been rolled up into one dumbed-down soft n fluffy subject called 'science' - with exams that are no more than multiple choice questions, so in my stat porn view of the world, a percentage of people will appear to get top marks without knowing anything at all, like the proverbial million monkeys and their typewriters.

Multiple-choice questions prompt the answer from the depths of the stagnant mind, like quiz show hosts who give the most obvious clues to the simplest questions so that few are humiliated by abject failure on TV.

Science has a two-fold mission: first to discover, and then to explain, but the multiple choice question does not test either of these.

As for psuedo-science, it has ruined the study of interesting phenomenon like 'lifters' by putting them in the context of mumbo-jumbo sometimes stretching as far as top secret involvement of the CIA with aliens, silly lunar landing conspiracy theories, and other crap that amounts to magic, madness, or both.

Our doctrine here at 4HV.org is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary levels of proof, but all this codswallop about the dangers of very low level non-ionizing radiation is really an artefact of hack journalism, and the Climate of Fear that our politicians have cultivated over these last ten years for the purpose of magnifying their power.

The real dangers confronting our planet - "war, famine, and plague" and their modern iterations, can be ignored while the public attention is drawn away by an endless diet of scare stories about paedophilia, "terror", and whether Posh and Becks marriage will survive her lastest change of hair colur.

But there's big money in psuedo-science and quackery, so I don't expect the Voice of Reason to prevail any more now than it ever has done in the past.
We'll just have to put up with.

doctor electrons

Sun Oct 04 2009, 03:39PM

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Well said!

Chris Russell

Sun Oct 04 2009, 05:19PM

... not Russel!
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I don't know if this could even be called pseudoscience. It's more like abject, willful ignorance of even the basic principles of rational decision making. One doesn't have to understand science at all to be able to weigh evidence on a particular matter.

Here are some things that present a more realistic cancer risk than the school's Wi-Fi:

Uh-oh, little Timmy's slightly singed grilled cheese sandwich is loaded with probable carcinogens found in burned bread.
Allowing the children to go outside, ever, without applying SPF80 sunblock and providing them with a 0.1 micron air filter mask.
Serving any kind of meat in the cafeteria.
Flooding the school with fumes from sealant and paint because you just had to run 5000m of cat5 cabling.
Allowing a teacher or parent who smokes to enter the school without taking a decontamination shower.
Stressing the children by assigning difficult work.
Allowing a piece of granite within school grounds.
Failing to take shelter under several feet of concrete during a reported solar x-ray flare.
Failing to equip the school with its own air reserve and CO2 scrubbers, so that the school can be purged, sealed, and slightly pressurized when radon levels are high.
Allowing fossil-fuel burning motor vehicles anywhere near the school without an emissions test.

Of course, all those things are either too costly, too unlikely to be of harm, or would be massively unpopular to correct.

Proud Mary

Sun Oct 04 2009, 06:25PM

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You've hit the nail on the head, Chris.

It's not merely a question of wilful ignorance, but of keeping people ignorant, so that the escape of a single poisonous spider from a zoo will be given headline news status, and children will be urged to stay indoors until the spider is nailed by armed police, while corporate saboteurs spend billions on PR every year to give the lowest possible profile to the dangers of fossil fuels, to industrial pollution, to their responsibility for famine in Africa, and the climate catastrophe awaiting to engulf us all. And they'll go on doing it until the very last, so long as the cash registers keeping ringing.

If there is any value in the crumbling parchments and rotting scrolls of religion, and the "Old Testament" narratives of nomadic Semitic tribes of the Late Bronze Age, it is to show that men have always been prepared to sell their brothers and sisters down the river for a quick buck, and nothing has changed.

Steve Conner

Sun Oct 04 2009, 08:10PM

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You mean you won't be buying an Aaronia Faraday Bed?

Seriously, I've heard that exposure limits for non-ionizing radiation will become law in the EU in 2014. I can't decide whether to protest by building more Tesla coils, or cash in by developing an EM health monitor.

Conundrum

Sun Oct 04 2009, 08:26PM

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Sounds about right for the EU... recall the fiasco with "lead free" solder (koff massive heat-related failures /koff)

Wouldn't put it past the Govt to try and restrict amateur radio/TC building/etc/yadayada "just in case"...

The problem with "cashing in" on the level of paranoia is that it just makes things worse.

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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)

Sun Oct 04 2009, 08:48PM

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HAHAHAHHAH Chris!

What you have discovered is called "Political Correctness"

A Mental Cancer throbbing since the early '90's

Maybe by 2020 we'll all be walking around in our own personal Hampster Bubbles to protect us. And when that isn't sufficient anymore, the crowd that invented this stupidity will force us to have robots that protect us from us... wait a sec... someone very wise already knew this was coming!

Proud Mary

Sun Oct 04 2009, 08:50PM

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Steve McConner wrote ...

You mean you won't be buying an Aaronia Faraday Bed?

It really does depend on what frequency and dose of non-ionizing radiation we are talking about, as to whether it is a load of baloney or not.

We all know that magnetron energy can burn, maim and kill, but being the EU I suspect the limit will be just a little above the level of the most intensive teenage-girl chronic exposure to cell phone RF, since scientific findings which are against the interests of corporate giants are always found to be invalid and have all but ceased to exist.

Steve Conner

Sun Oct 04 2009, 09:51PM

Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog) wrote ...

wait a sec... someone very wise already knew this was coming!

Asimov's fourth law of robotics: A robot shall explode the day after its warranty runs out.

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