If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.
Special Thanks To:
Aaron Holmes
Aaron Wheeler
Adam Horden
Alan Scrimgeour
Andre
Andrew Haynes
Anonymous000
asabase
Austin Weil
barney
Barry
Bert Hickman
Bill Kukowski
Blitzorn
Brandon Paradelas
Bruce Bowling
BubeeMike
Byong Park
Cesiumsponge
Chris F.
Chris Hooper
Corey Worthington
Derek Woodroffe
Dalus
Dan Strother
Daniel Davis
Daniel Uhrenholt
datasheetarchive
Dave Billington
Dave Marshall
David F.
Dennis Rogers
drelectrix
Dr. John Gudenas
Dr. Spark
E.TexasTesla
eastvoltresearch
Eirik Taylor
Erik Dyakov
Erlend^SE
Finn Hammer
Firebug24k
GalliumMan
Gary Peterson
George Slade
GhostNull
Gordon Mcknight
Graham Armitage
Grant
GreySoul
Henry H
IamSmooth
In memory of Leo Powning
Jacob Cash
James Howells
James Pawson
Jeff Greenfield
Jeff Thomas
Jesse Frost
Jim Mitchell
jlr134
Joe Mastroianni
John Forcina
John Oberg
John Willcutt
Jon Newcomb
klugesmith
Leslie Wright
Lutz Hoffman
Mads Barnkob
Martin King
Mats Karlsson
Matt Gibson
Matthew Guidry
mbd
Michael D'Angelo
Mikkel
mileswaldron
mister_rf
Neil Foster
Nick de Smith
Nick Soroka
nicklenorp
Nik
Norman Stanley
Patrick Coleman
Paul Brodie
Paul Jordan
Paul Montgomery
Ped
Peter Krogen
Peter Terren
PhilGood
Richard Feldman
Robert Bush
Royce Bailey
Scott Fusare
Scott Newman
smiffy
Stella
Steven Busic
Steve Conner
Steve Jones
Steve Ward
Sulaiman
Thomas Coyle
Thomas A. Wallace
Thomas W
Timo
Torch
Ulf Jonsson
vasil
Vaxian
vladi mazzilli
wastehl
Weston
William Kim
William N.
William Stehl
Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Registered Member #2372
Joined:
Location:
Posts: 62
So usually with RF discharges they run best when the RF frequency matches the electron-neutral collision frequency because on average the electrons will collide once per cycle and the most energy will be transferred on average from the free electrons to the gas. This can be found from some math that is in the Lieberman and Lichtenberg plasma processing book. The way you couple energy into a plasma is through collisions, without them the electrons would just go back and forth until you turned off the electric field and no net energy would be transferred to them. You should be able to find more stuff about this if you look up how they make inductively coupled plasma sources, which are used for a lot of different plasma processing applications.
Registered Member #1134
Joined: Tue Nov 20 2007, 04:39PM
Location: Bonnie Scotland
Posts: 351
MinorityCarrier wrote ...
If your pump stops working when the oil heats up, something is wrong with your pump, or you have the wrong oil in it.
First off, I presume you have a rotary vane pump. You should be running a hivac pump oil eqivalent to Inland 19. Your pump should be able to run continuously and maintain vacuum when hot. Hopefully you didn't put automotive oil in your pump.
I would say so too, or incorrect use of / not using the gas ballast if it has one. Running the pump at atmosphere for any length of time will saturate the oil with water, which will also cause the symptoms described.
If a gas ballast is provided, pump down the chamber first, with the ballast valve open, leave it for running say 10 min, then close the valve. You should reach a lower ultimate pressure, that should be less affected by the pump temp.
Registered Member #2123
Joined: Sat May 16 2009, 03:10AM
Location: Bend, Oregon
Posts: 312
Ballasting is used primarily to prevent molecular flow of pump oil back up the foreline, and is sometimes used as a means to regulate pressure in the 1K millitorr realm. Most R.V. pumps I work with do not have ballasting inputs to the pump block, ballasting is installed upstream in the foreline plumbing. I presume he ISN'T running the pump open to atmosphere or running very high ballasting gas flow, that tends to blow out the (expensive) oil and ultimately ruin the vanes/score the pump chamber walls/ruin the pump.
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.