Welcome
Username or Email:

Password:


Missing Code




[ ]
[ ]
Online
  • Guests: 30
  • Members: 0
  • Newest Member: omjtest
  • Most ever online: 396
    Guests: 396, Members: 0 on 12 Jan : 12:51
Members Birthdays:
All today's birthdays', congrats!
Sync (33)
Grant-ZA (58)
FreakyG (56)
brtaman (38)


Next birthdays
04/22 Sync (33)
04/22 Grant-ZA (58)
04/22 FreakyG (56)
Contact
If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.


Special Thanks To:
  • Aaron Holmes
  • Aaron Wheeler
  • Adam Horden
  • Alan Scrimgeour
  • Andre
  • Andrew Haynes
  • Anonymous000
  • asabase
  • Austin Weil
  • barney
  • Barry
  • Bert Hickman
  • Bill Kukowski
  • Blitzorn
  • Brandon Paradelas
  • Bruce Bowling
  • BubeeMike
  • Byong Park
  • Cesiumsponge
  • Chris F.
  • Chris Hooper
  • Corey Worthington
  • Derek Woodroffe
  • Dalus
  • Dan Strother
  • Daniel Davis
  • Daniel Uhrenholt
  • datasheetarchive
  • Dave Billington
  • Dave Marshall
  • David F.
  • Dennis Rogers
  • drelectrix
  • Dr. John Gudenas
  • Dr. Spark
  • E.TexasTesla
  • eastvoltresearch
  • Eirik Taylor
  • Erik Dyakov
  • Erlend^SE
  • Finn Hammer
  • Firebug24k
  • GalliumMan
  • Gary Peterson
  • George Slade
  • GhostNull
  • Gordon Mcknight
  • Graham Armitage
  • Grant
  • GreySoul
  • Henry H
  • IamSmooth
  • In memory of Leo Powning
  • Jacob Cash
  • James Howells
  • James Pawson
  • Jeff Greenfield
  • Jeff Thomas
  • Jesse Frost
  • Jim Mitchell
  • jlr134
  • Joe Mastroianni
  • John Forcina
  • John Oberg
  • John Willcutt
  • Jon Newcomb
  • klugesmith
  • Leslie Wright
  • Lutz Hoffman
  • Mads Barnkob
  • Martin King
  • Mats Karlsson
  • Matt Gibson
  • Matthew Guidry
  • mbd
  • Michael D'Angelo
  • Mikkel
  • mileswaldron
  • mister_rf
  • Neil Foster
  • Nick de Smith
  • Nick Soroka
  • nicklenorp
  • Nik
  • Norman Stanley
  • Patrick Coleman
  • Paul Brodie
  • Paul Jordan
  • Paul Montgomery
  • Ped
  • Peter Krogen
  • Peter Terren
  • PhilGood
  • Richard Feldman
  • Robert Bush
  • Royce Bailey
  • Scott Fusare
  • Scott Newman
  • smiffy
  • Stella
  • Steven Busic
  • Steve Conner
  • Steve Jones
  • Steve Ward
  • Sulaiman
  • Thomas Coyle
  • Thomas A. Wallace
  • Thomas W
  • Timo
  • Torch
  • Ulf Jonsson
  • vasil
  • Vaxian
  • vladi mazzilli
  • wastehl
  • Weston
  • William Kim
  • William N.
  • William Stehl
  • Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Forums
4hv.org :: Forums :: Tesla Coils
« Previous topic | Next topic »   

Long run sstc

1 2 
Move Thread LAN_403
Linas
Tue Aug 18 2009, 08:49AM Print
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
Location: Vilnius, Lithuania
Posts: 721
Hi
I have to make stable, long demo run SSTC (SSTC have to run, until secondary become hot).

To make that, i buy large heatsink (it can eradiate 100W heat without fan), so my fets will be just warm. Heatsink is large surface area madded from 1,2kg aluminum)

Also i decided to use diode blocking system (some high power schottky and 15ETX06 diode (18ns 15A).It will be full-bridge with IRFPS40N50L mosfets.

For driver, i think use PLL, will high power GDT driver (CT>PLL>UCC>ultrafast fets>GDT)
Secondary will be 0,1mm wire 8cm diameter 33cm tall
does any one have idea, how to make it more stable ? neutral
i
Back to top
Mads Barnkob
Tue Aug 18 2009, 10:19AM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
Location: Denmark, Odense C
Posts: 1968
If heating in the secondary is your major concern, add a fan at the bottom to cool up through the secondary tube, just remember large holes under the topload :)
Back to top
Marko
Tue Aug 18 2009, 11:05AM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
Location: Zadar, Croatia
Posts: 3145
Overheating of the secondary, especially around the base, is the major issue. On my wireless power demonstration coil I used PVC tube for the secondary form and this limits the run time to few minutes at most.

A secondary that is intended to run for prolonged periods of time should definitely be wound on something more heat resistant (fiberglass, teflon, phenolic/bakelite), still combined with forced air cooling.

If that isn't enough, more extreme alternatives could be active oil cooling (using a plexiglas tube around the secondary and a motorcycle radiator) or making the secondary a skeleton-coil and blowing air through it.

Marko
Back to top
HV Enthusiast
Tue Aug 18 2009, 11:37AM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
Location:
Posts: 3068
Just use forced air cooling. This will cool your secondary very effectively.
Back to top
Linas
Tue Aug 18 2009, 12:03PM
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
Location: Vilnius, Lithuania
Posts: 721
maybe i will fill all secondary with epoxy glue, and that will help keep secondary just warm some time...
Back to top
Mads Barnkob
Tue Aug 18 2009, 02:11PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
Location: Denmark, Odense C
Posts: 1968
Linas wrote ...

maybe i will fill all secondary by epoxy glue, and that will help keep secondary warm some time...


wait... what...
Back to top
Arcstarter
Tue Aug 18 2009, 05:30PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
Location: Beaumont, Texas, USA
Posts: 2253
MadsKaizer wrote ...

Linas wrote ...

maybe i will fill all secondary by epoxy glue, and that will help keep secondary warm some time...


wait... what...
Well, if you use thermally conductive materials, it will effectively increase surface area, like a heatsink. I have a stereo transformer that is potted with some very hard thermally conductive material, for heat dissipation. The highest voltage internally is 120v, so there is no need for electrical isolation. Though, i dont know anything about epoxy glue.

As Dr. Gigavolt said, forced air cooling would probably be sufficient. If not, i rather like the idea of the skeleton former. I have thought about using this before. And that with forced air cooling should make a cold coil. As long as you are not going for sparks longer than the secondary...
Back to top
HV Enthusiast
Tue Aug 18 2009, 06:36PM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
Location:
Posts: 3068
Linas wrote ...

maybe i will fill all secondary with epoxy glue, and that will help keep secondary just warm some time...


Just get a fan and blow it on the secondary directly.

You guys love to make things complicated.
Back to top
teravolt
Wed Aug 19 2009, 03:50AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
Location: Berkeley, ca.
Posts: 1111
Just use forced air cooling. This will cool your secondary very effectively.
better yet put a fan bellow the ciol and blow it up through the tube and outside
Back to top
HV Enthusiast
Wed Aug 19 2009, 12:03PM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
Location:
Posts: 3068
Just a floor fan pointed at the windings is good enough (or a muffin fan)

There is very low thermal mass of the windings and the air will curve right around the secondary and cool it quite effectively. For best results, use minimal (or no) coating over the secondary)
Back to top
1 2 

Moderator(s): Chris Russell, Noelle, Alex, Tesladownunder, Dave Marshall, Dave Billington, Bjørn, Steve Conner, Wolfram, Kizmo, Mads Barnkob

Go to:

Powered by e107 Forum System
 
Legal Information
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.