If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.
Special Thanks To:
Aaron Holmes
Aaron Wheeler
Adam Horden
Alan Scrimgeour
Andre
Andrew Haynes
Anonymous000
asabase
Austin Weil
barney
Barry
Bert Hickman
Bill Kukowski
Blitzorn
Brandon Paradelas
Bruce Bowling
BubeeMike
Byong Park
Cesiumsponge
Chris F.
Chris Hooper
Corey Worthington
Derek Woodroffe
Dalus
Dan Strother
Daniel Davis
Daniel Uhrenholt
datasheetarchive
Dave Billington
Dave Marshall
David F.
Dennis Rogers
drelectrix
Dr. John Gudenas
Dr. Spark
E.TexasTesla
eastvoltresearch
Eirik Taylor
Erik Dyakov
Erlend^SE
Finn Hammer
Firebug24k
GalliumMan
Gary Peterson
George Slade
GhostNull
Gordon Mcknight
Graham Armitage
Grant
GreySoul
Henry H
IamSmooth
In memory of Leo Powning
Jacob Cash
James Howells
James Pawson
Jeff Greenfield
Jeff Thomas
Jesse Frost
Jim Mitchell
jlr134
Joe Mastroianni
John Forcina
John Oberg
John Willcutt
Jon Newcomb
klugesmith
Leslie Wright
Lutz Hoffman
Mads Barnkob
Martin King
Mats Karlsson
Matt Gibson
Matthew Guidry
mbd
Michael D'Angelo
Mikkel
mileswaldron
mister_rf
Neil Foster
Nick de Smith
Nick Soroka
nicklenorp
Nik
Norman Stanley
Patrick Coleman
Paul Brodie
Paul Jordan
Paul Montgomery
Ped
Peter Krogen
Peter Terren
PhilGood
Richard Feldman
Robert Bush
Royce Bailey
Scott Fusare
Scott Newman
smiffy
Stella
Steven Busic
Steve Conner
Steve Jones
Steve Ward
Sulaiman
Thomas Coyle
Thomas A. Wallace
Thomas W
Timo
Torch
Ulf Jonsson
vasil
Vaxian
vladi mazzilli
wastehl
Weston
William Kim
William N.
William Stehl
Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Registered Member #2750
Joined: Sun Mar 21 2010, 08:47PM
Location: Poland
Posts: 46
I have finished predikter pcb now and if I connect gdt into output of driver I have totlay bad signal on it - high frequency osclilations and generaly signal is not a sqoare wave. When I put 15ohm resistor in series with GDT primary everything looking proper. I speaking about small intermediate bridge GDT. I didnt connect IGBT GDT yet. Without intermediate GDT everything is good.
Registered Member #205
Joined: Sat Feb 18 2006, 11:59AM
Location: Skørping, Denmark
Posts: 741
Dzejwor wrote ...
I have finished predikter pcb now and if I connect gdt into output of driver I have totlay bad signal on it - high frequency osclilations and generaly signal is not a sqoare wave. When I put 15ohm resistor in series with GDT primary everything looking proper. I speaking about small intermediate bridge GDT. I didnt connect IGBT GDT yet. Without intermediate GDT everything is good.
I know what you are talking about. The predikter was designed to drive the bridge via optocoupled gatedrivers, and in that configuration this problem did not arise. When i abandoned the gate driver boards, and went to gate drive transformers, I got the same problem.
The problem arises from the fact, that the enable pin has a propagation delay of 60nS, which allows the gate signal to go high according to the feedback signal, before it is pulled low by the enable pin at the end of each burst. This seems to inject some charge in the transformer primary, which then gets trapped and has no other way but to oscillate. Putting a resistor in the circuit, as I also did, seems to solve the problem, although I agree with you that it looks ugly, and far from elegant. I have since forgotten about it, and I intend to resurrect my driver boards anyway, so.... It should be trivial to solve this problem, but some proficiency with logic chips is needed. You could borrow the logic from Steve Ward's current design, it is a better design than the one I used. We had the same problem on Daniel's exhibition coil, however, it did perform excellently, so we just forgot about it. I welcome an easy solution from anyone, because I am not so creative today as I was in those magical momths last year.
Registered Member #2750
Joined: Sun Mar 21 2010, 08:47PM
Location: Poland
Posts: 46
After several hours of fighting I have something what looks like proper signals but stil have a lot of problems with adjusting that driver. Can you give me some advice how to proper adjust this ? I know how they should look correct waveforms on load But I dont know how to adjust everything and I have a question about a few issues which I do not understand first what is the potentiometer marked on your schematic as R1 and how to proper adjust this. I don't use deadtime so I set the R7 and R8 to minimal resistance - no delays here. R12 I set to proper rectified sine. R13 sets treshold of OCD. Now I ned to set R5 and R6 delays to arhive proper ZCS switching. Another thing which I do not understand the signal at the igbt gate. looks like at this picture below. I dont know whai is it I didnt se nothing like this before the only idea of what I have is that something goes through gate to collector capacity in the IGBTs when the primary current ringdown after the bridge is stopped by the interrupter/OCD. Next question what I have is why you didn't use a diodes with gate resistors. At this moment I have diodes in parallel with the gate resistors. Perhaps I should to try without them.
Edit: I removed the diodes and it seems to me that the output voltage from the bridge looks better but now I have quite a different signal to the gate and I still have these strange oscilations after each cycle. What is the proper gate waveform without diodes - I need to adjust gate resistors.
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.