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12V primary voltage SSTC's

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RichM
Thu May 21 2009, 03:16PM Print
RichM Registered Member #950 Joined: Sat Aug 11 2007, 02:11PM
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Hi,

Has anyone had much luck getting an SSTC to work well with only 12V supply to the primary coil?

Rich
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Dieu
Thu May 21 2009, 06:46PM
Dieu Registered Member #1730 Joined: Thu Oct 02 2008, 08:12AM
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My coil didn't wanted to work on 20V, and I gues that it could be the same on 12V, but actually it is working on 40V. But on internet there is some projects of SSTC working on 12V. Most of SSTC powered by car supply are working on 12V or 24V. Projects of ISSTC are rether powered by thil low voltage.
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RichM
Thu May 21 2009, 07:13PM
RichM Registered Member #950 Joined: Sat Aug 11 2007, 02:11PM
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I'm using 12V at the moment and the output is just a couple of mm

I thought I'd seen some on the web with 12V primary voltage but i can't seem to find them now.

I'm hoping someone here has had a go and can give me some tips
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Mads Barnkob
Thu May 21 2009, 10:16PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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The most succesful that jumps to my attention right now...

skori 12V: Link2
skori 24v: Link2
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Coronafix
Thu May 21 2009, 11:22PM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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I was going to suggest the skori too. Hell of a little coil!
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Arcstarter
Fri May 22 2009, 12:03AM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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I was going to suggest the skori as well.

24v: Link2
12v: Link2
18v: Link2

The best translation i could do for the 12v coil: Link2

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Andri
Fri May 22 2009, 02:49AM
Andri Registered Member #1533 Joined: Wed Jun 11 2008, 02:13PM
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The secondary voltage depends on the primary current. So for greater spark length you need to make the resistance at the resonant frequency as low as you can. This can be accomplished by matching the resonant frequency on the primary with that of the secondary. You could even try adding a variable capacitor. ;)

Good luck.
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RichM
Fri May 22 2009, 07:23PM
RichM Registered Member #950 Joined: Sat Aug 11 2007, 02:11PM
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I don't seem to be pulling enough current it seems. I'm using a self resonant full bridge of IRGB2060PD1 (600V, 40A).
Rce is shown as 158 miliohms on the datasheet. I guess this is quite a large resistance. At any time the lowest possible resistance between the PSU and the primary coil would be 316miliohms, so at 12V, the peak current could be no more than 38A. It's not running at anywhere near that though.
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Andri
Fri May 22 2009, 08:07PM
Andri Registered Member #1533 Joined: Wed Jun 11 2008, 02:13PM
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Perhaps the IGBTs aren't switching fast enough.
At what frequency are you running them and what's the frequency rating of those devices (google yielded no results for IRGB2060PD1)?
Have you tried looser coupling?

Maybe you should post drawings of your circuit and perhaps even pictures of your setup.
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RichM
Fri May 22 2009, 11:51PM
RichM Registered Member #950 Joined: Sat Aug 11 2007, 02:11PM
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I think there's something wrong with my circuit... I've attatched a simplified version.

I noticed that when I have no load connected, I can touch the antenna and the circuit will oscilate at 50Hz which is becasue it is picking up mains frequency from my body. So that seems to be working.

But when I connect the load (primary coil) the circuit is osilating but it seems so be just at 300 hertz (approx). I disconnected the antenna and it makes no difference.

It must be picking it up internally but i'm not sure where from. The whole circuit runs from the same battery. There is a large choke between the supply and the control electronics and a decoupler with each IC.

There is a MOV between the gate and emitter of each IGBT, and als between antenna and ground

I'm using a CMOS switch to connect and disconnect the comprator output to the TC4428
1243036105 950 FT69883 Circuit
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