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vasil
Fri Apr 07 2006, 10:09PM
vasil Registered Member #229 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 07:33PM
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So...why do you use zenners anymore?

Streamer r: yes it can be used. Firkragg and WaveRider used royer oscillators for high frequency SSTCs
I built myself a SSTC based on royer circuitry/ZVS driver, whatever, but at much lower frequency (around 76 kHz).
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Omicron
Fri Apr 07 2006, 10:17PM
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Dr Desmo wrote ...

Nope, you need an inductor too, roughly 100uH, one out of an old computer PSU should do the trick.
Those 1n4007's are going to get pretty warm, and I'm unsure if they are fast enough, you will kill them. I used MUR840's on mine, which are probably overkill?
You also need some Zeners to clamp the gates. 15Volt jobbies.



No, its different, I got it off the ZVS driver thread, I was told you need zeners “to clamp the gates” I used what people told me to use.
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vasil
Fri Apr 07 2006, 10:25PM
vasil Registered Member #229 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 07:33PM
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You didnt mention in the first post that you want to use a separate power supply for the gates....
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Omicron
Fri Apr 07 2006, 10:31PM
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What? I just want to power my flyback! This is getting too complicated! Vasil is the schematic you gave me the one I need?

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vasil
Fri Apr 07 2006, 10:35PM
vasil Registered Member #229 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 07:33PM
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The link is for the original driver. The separate gate supply is a new idea developed on the old forum. They both work very well. Choose what you like.

If the FETs have no built in diode you need some ultrafast diodes across the FETs (more current diodes than uf4007).

Good luck, and we wait some pics from you when is ready.
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Omicron
Fri Apr 07 2006, 10:49PM
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How can I tell if they have a built in diode? I am buying them off the eletronics goldmine.
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EDY19
Fri Apr 07 2006, 11:28PM
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Do a search for the datasheet for the specific part you bought, and it will tell you if the FET has an internal diode or not. Also, try to scavenge a TV for the flyback- there is no reason to pay 30 dollars for it- you can buy a TV from goodwill for less than 20$.
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Omicron
Sat Apr 08 2006, 12:54AM
Omicron Registered Member #131 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 09:25PM
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Ops that was a mistake, the numbers in () is the how much I am getting of the material,
Here my current list,

1. UF4007 Rectifier; 1.7V; 1A; 1000V; 700Voltage, RMS (80)

2. OY471K Resistor, Ceramic, Axial, 2 Watt, 10%, 470 (20)

3. Flyback Transformer :: ETF-30L316AYT (10)

4. IRFP350 400V 16Amp Mosfet (11)

5. 120 ohm 2 Watt Power Resistor (Pkg of 200) (3)

6. 33uF 600VDC Film Capacitor (8)

7. 10K 1/4 watt Resistor (Pkg of 100) (3)


I will do a search for that data sheet.


It looks like there is a dioed in there,has stuff about dieoed break down voltage.
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Desmogod
Sat Apr 08 2006, 03:39AM
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I would still use a seperate external diode.
Those little internal ones pretty weak, you'll find you'll be spiking and blowing your MOSFET's on a regular basis.
Just stick with the original ZVS driver you have, and don't worry about a seperate power supply for your gates, I found this only becomes necessary when you get over about 50V.
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cjk2
Sat Apr 08 2006, 03:42AM
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streamers rule wrote ...

could zvs be used for sstc?

Yes, while I don't recommend doing it with this circuit, it does work and has been done before. See my "Soda Bottle SSTC" topic for my results doing this. I believe if you want to do it the "correct" way, you will need 4 windings vs. 2 used in this ZVS driver. I was lazy so I just used the normal circuit and it worked ok.

I agree with Desmo about the zener diodes. I have run my ZVS up to 100vdc and I never see any problems with not using a seperate supply for the gates. Just keep the resistor values high, so nothing overheats.
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