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Mike

Thu Apr 20 2006, 09:38PM

Registered Member #58 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:40AM
Location: Tri-Cities, Washington, US
Posts: 317

Tests kinda would especially hurt members who might be dyslexic and of different language still trying to speak english well.
My Idea would have a seperate forum for all the noobs and anyone who wants to join, learn the basics and safety, then come here when they are ready. This way you can also filter out the trolls before they come here.

Mike

Part Scavenger

Thu Apr 20 2006, 09:46PM

Registered Member #79 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:35AM
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 673

Why does a test have to exclude noobs? It would just force them to spend a little time researching. I sure as heck would have looked up a bunch of stuff to be part of this forum. Maybe we could have an essay test. For example:

What is a capacitor? List two applications for this device.
What does IGBT stand for?
List three ways that high voltage can be hazardous to your health.
etc, etc.

It doesn't have to be very hard, a quick review would indicate if someone was serious or not; and it could be somewhat more like an application.

Alex

Thu Apr 20 2006, 11:15PM

Geometrically Frustrated
Registered Member #6 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 04:18AM
Location: Bowdoin, Maine
Posts: 373

The idea is for the system to be automagic. The pile of stale applications was proof that our system failed.

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Yeah, I think tests wouldn't be optimal either. They sure keep the asshats out, but also the noobs.

Not true. The asshat is the one who can't learn. He won't figure out the test. The noob may be dumb, but he can figure things out. He'll google the answers, and we'll let him in.

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What about stricter enforcing of the rules? LIke getting easier banned if you start pissing of other members?

That sounds like a good idea.

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My Idea would have a seperate forum for all the noobs and anyone who wants to join, learn the basics and safety, then come here when they are ready. This way you can also filter out the trolls before they come here.

People HATE inqequality. Also, nobody but the newbies are going to want to read the newbie forum. A probation system might be a better choice, but it is likely that it would have to be hard coded into the forum software, and that's not going to happen.

Madgyver

Fri Apr 21 2006, 12:41AM

Registered Member #177 Joined: Wed Feb 15 2006, 02:16PM
Location: Munich, Germany
Posts: 214

I see I forgot to mention, that I meant, zero tolerance policy on the rules, for I don't know first 50 Posts or so.

Michael W.

Fri Apr 21 2006, 01:30AM

Registered Member #50 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:07AM
Location: Vernon, B.C, Canada
Posts: 324

Wouldn't the simplest answer be , not to keep out the socalled "asshats" but just to delete thier accounts as they make poor judgments about what they post? No matter what we do do keep out the bad, they'll stilll get in.....

Simon

Fri Apr 21 2006, 02:11AM

Registered Member #32 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 08:58AM
Location: Australia
Posts: 549

Things have been a lot better lately. I used to have to deal with bad posts most days I logged on, now it's one or two posts a week.

I think if we have any test, it should have questions based on the rules and a question that can obviously be answered by a web-search.

Most of the bad posts and general low quality are due to people who didn't read the rules thoroughly enough and people asking web-search style questions. It would also make the moderating job a lot easier if we could assume that everyone has read the rules. Writing rule-quoting PMs isn't as exciting as you might think.

Simon Barsinister

Fri Apr 21 2006, 03:25AM

Registered Member #116 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 03:19AM
Location: Erie Pa, USA
Posts: 29

New users should read a good part of the forum to at least get an idea of how things are run here. Then post. How you ensure they do that I dont know.
Could some rediculous posts (even entire threads) just be washed off at the same time as the culprit who inflicted it on us? Such as making nitro-glycerine? You gotta be kidding me! I dont even want to think of the danger I would have explored if there was an internet when I was a kid! (I most likely wouldn't be here to post).
I have no web site, and probably will not for some time. This is the only place I have ever posted. Over the 3 incarnations of this board I've got to "know" and like alot of you cats. Usually the useless ones just dissappear.
An online chat session with the applicant would certainly show their attitude and give you an indication of brilliance, B.S, or an acceptable medium. Although it would suck to tell someone "no you cant play here". Telling the buttheads to vacate would be somewhat better.
Everyone here has probably made little errors, but very few posters have caused issues.
So much for my 2 cents, Rich

Chris Russell

Fri Apr 21 2006, 03:26AM

... not Russel!
Registered Member #1 Joined: Thu Jan 26 2006, 12:18AM
Location: Tempe, Arizona
Posts: 1052

Things are getting better, and the application volume is pretty low. I am content to handle the system privately for now. In the short-term, it gives me even less time to post here, but I think that in the long-term, it will end up saving me and all the other mods a lot of time.

I admit I am somewhat uncomfortable doing this in private, though. I know sooner or later someone will disagree with me, and make accusations that I'm a super secret Nazi elitist snob. Perhaps at some point, a few other people could come aboard, if only so that I have some oversight? All we really need to do is define what we expect in an application a little better, and I think we'll have a system that is usable for the foreseeable future.

ragnar

Fri Apr 21 2006, 10:54AM

Registered Member #63 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:18AM
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Chris Russell wrote ...

I admit I am somewhat uncomfortable doing this in private, though. I know sooner or later someone will disagree with me, and make accusations that I'm a super secret Nazi elitist snob.

This is your forum. It's your right to be a super secret nazi elitist snob =)

Bjørn

Fri Apr 21 2006, 12:13PM

Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
Location: Hyperborea
Posts: 2058

That would pull away the foundation since the forum got started to avoid exactly that.

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