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GimpyJoe

Mon Apr 10 2006, 11:01PM

Registered Member #316 Joined: Mon Mar 13 2006, 01:30PM
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 212

I don't know much about making websites, but would it be feasible to make a "complaint" button next to each post that would be clickable by full members? It would be a good way to give offensive members feedback and show what behavior we think is unacceptable. If someone clicked your button, you would get an automatic P.M. saying which of your posts a particular member had a problem with, and if you got more than, say, ten complaints a mod would evaluate the case and see if you needed to be deleted.

AndrewM

Mon Apr 10 2006, 11:01PM

Registered Member #49 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:05AM
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jim youre just saying that cuz you've been here for years and are still a noob.

Madgyver

Tue Apr 11 2006, 12:51AM

Registered Member #177 Joined: Wed Feb 15 2006, 02:16PM
Location: Munich, Germany
Posts: 214

Jim wrote ...

People are immediately judged as "noobs" even if they have lightyears more experience than those that are judging them.

Example?

Simon

Tue Apr 11 2006, 01:54AM

Registered Member #32 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 08:58AM
Location: Australia
Posts: 549

Funky wrote ...

I don't know much about making websites, but would it be feasible to make a "complaint" button next to each post that would be clickable by full members? It would be a good way to give offensive members feedback and show what behavior we think is unacceptable. If someone clicked your button, you would get an automatic P.M. saying which of your posts a particular member had a problem with, and if you got more than, say, ten complaints a mod would evaluate the case and see if you needed to be deleted.

That could be an idea, in some form or other. At the moment regular users have the power to PM moderators with complaints. If patterns start becoming obvious, things happen.

Some kind of automatic filing system might make the job a little easier. Some way of recording feedback from regular users would also help.

Penguin7471

Tue Apr 11 2006, 04:01AM

Registered Member #71 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:23AM
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I believe the problem with many (not all) new-comers is that they think that the more posts you have, the better/more experienced you are.

So they go on and post loads of freakin crap just to increase the post count and 'look good'. Sometimes people just need to get a life.

Sorry, this doesnt apply to those who post lots of very useful stuff, which I have learnt alot from.

Steve Conner

Tue Apr 11 2006, 09:57AM

Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706

I agree with Jim, we do tend to be somewhat clique-y towards noobs. If you want to join the "ring" that he was talking about, you have to gain our respect by showing that you actually have something to give to the community, rather than jumping up and down shouting omg meeee planz.

I would be up for making the application process as difficult as you like, just because there are so many people on the internet (and 4hv is getting popular enough) that we need to keep the number of applications down, so we might as well stream the smartest ones.

I've already suggested that you shouldn't get in unless you've built a hobby website or got a track record as a contributor to other forums. That ensures some level of competence in using the internet. I would make wannabe members post links to these things in their application, and existing members can check them out and vote on whether to let them in.

Desmogod

Tue Apr 11 2006, 10:41AM

Registered Member #139 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 11:01AM
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 358

I completely agree, or at least a short essay with a few pics of your bench and a some of your projects, rigs, even lash-ups. At least something you have built.
I'm lucky enough to sit in front of a PC all day, and would be quite happy to screen people before maybe passing the cream on to the Mods. I'm sure a lot of the other people here would as well.

Dr. Shark

Tue Apr 11 2006, 11:15AM

Registered Member #75 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 09:30AM
Location: Montana, USA
Posts: 711

I kind of disagree about the point that has been made about the forum being elite and unfriedly to noobs. I have only joined the community when the new forum opened two month ago, and most people have been helpful and respectful from the first day on. Of course I have done my homework and tried not to ask too many stupid questions, but that should not be too hard for any new member! I think that people who are genuinely intersted in the subject will not face any problems. If you are in the process of _getting_ interested, well, read the archives, do your homework, then try again.

Part Scavenger

Tue Apr 11 2006, 02:08PM

Registered Member #79 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:35AM
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 673

course I have done my homework and tried not to ask too many stupid questions,

THAT is exactly the kind of thing we like to respond to. If you are willing to learn, we're willing to help. I can't tell you how frustrating it is for a noob to tell me I'm wrong about something when he doesn't have a clue. I don't mind correction if they've got logic to back them up; but that usually isn't the case. We're nice to good noobs.

I also agree with Steve. The fourm is getting more popular, and we should make the application process somewhat harder so that we do get dedicated people. We don't want to filter out the noobs though I don't think, just the buttheads. I was a noob here once("once" might still be debateable

), and this forum is the singlemost influential influence on my learning in electronics/chem/etc. Steve Ward was a noob several years ago, we don't want to block out the potential Steve Wards!

We also don't want to make it too hard so that already genuises don't bother with the application process. Someone coming just to add might not try too hard. This is why I'm starting to like the application test. That would be easy for engineers and the like, and noobs might have to do a bit of research first.

Desmogod

Tue Apr 11 2006, 05:09PM

Registered Member #139 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 11:01AM
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 358

I have noticed a marked improvement and clamping down on things over the last week or so, and it can only be a good thing.
Everyone is a noob once, and everyone is a noob for the rest of their lives, every day is a school day

I know I have learned a huge deal from this site, and know that I continually will as long as I have the privilege to remain so. Being a noob, you can get overexcited and ask stupid questions, but I have noticed that the geniune noob questions are answered, and generally with an explanation as to why. i.e. "What cap do I need between my feedback input and logic". Pretty fair I think. I think it is all our responsibilty to ignore troll postings and googleable questions from anyone who is a member of this forum, regardless of experience or standing.
I know my knowledge is minimal, but the stuff i do know that I recieved from members here will benefit others I am sure.
I certainly don't want to be percieved as cliquey, just don't be an arsehat.

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