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TC driving Fluoro string. How long?

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Tesladownunder
Wed Apr 08 2009, 06:12PM
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My guess is that 20 would do it. I will solder them up and work out how to string them nicely.
A linear string is interesting but there are potentially a lot more creative ways to arrange fluoros around a TC. Looks like rain this week end though so might be a bit limited in what I can try.
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hotcrazyfruit
Wed Apr 08 2009, 08:40PM
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Tesladownunder wrote ...

My guess is that 20 would do it. I will solder them up and work out how to string them nicely.
A linear string is interesting but there are potentially a lot more creative ways to arrange fluoros around a TC. Looks like rain this week end though so might be a bit limited in what I can try.

like writing your name in flourescant tubes. that would make a great avatar!
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Tesladownunder
Fri Apr 10 2009, 04:09PM
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Here's 30 with no problems even with a dead tube. I didn't have very strong rope so it is supported in the middle via a convenient branch. The termination near my sign is fortuitous.


1239379757 10 FT67192 Teslafluoro30endview
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Myke
Fri Apr 10 2009, 06:22PM
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Very cool project. It looks very pretty in all the pictures. Is there a reason why the arc has to travel through air before going through the fluoro string? I also like the sign in the last picture. tongue
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Plasma Lover
Fri Apr 10 2009, 06:44PM
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Myke wrote ...

Is there a reason why the arc has to travel through air before going through the fluoro string?

The reason is that there is a cetain breakout voltage with the topload, because of the capacitance, and that makes it so that it will have a larger ability to light more tubes. When attaching metal directly to the topload, it works as a breakout point, and lets the electrons out at a lower potential, due to lower capacitance. This means that you would end up with fewer tubes being lit.
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teslacoolguy
Fri Apr 10 2009, 07:26PM
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Plasma Lover wrote ...

Myke wrote ...

Is there a reason why the arc has to travel through air before going through the fluoro string?

The reason is that there is a cetain breakout voltage with the topload, because of the capacitance, and that makes it so that it will have a larger ability to light more tubes. When attaching metal directly to the topload, it works as a breakout point, and lets the electrons out at a lower potential, due to lower capacitance. This means that you would end up with fewer tubes being lit.

From an earlier post...
Tesladonunder...

If you simply connect it to the end of the TC it will be seriously detuned. I have used breakout points for past projects up to perhaps 30 feet long which reaches the limit of my tuning on either coil. Then there is the cumulative corona loss.
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Tesladownunder
Fri Apr 10 2009, 11:33PM
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Here is a different view. Notice the "dead" fluoro. Can you see all 3 of me?

1239406292 10 FT67192 Teslafluoro30mex3
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Tesladownunder
Mon Apr 13 2009, 02:30AM
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OK. No-one has posted but it is 48 hours and I have new info - so I qualify for a legal double post.

A rearrangement of the string using about 19 of the tubes. Sort of dwarfs me and the TC. Note the rounding of the picture at the corners with the limit of my wide angle lens.


1239589641 10 FT67192 Teslafluorotreebright


ps I have more photos for this and the "Mother of all LED's" thread. Back to the old days going full steam ahead on multiple projects. Ain't antidepressants wonderful.
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MRacerxdl
Mon Apr 13 2009, 05:58PM
MRacerxdl Registered Member #989 Joined: Sat Sept 08 2007, 02:15AM
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omg! I think with one tesla coil you can supply a entire house with dead fluorescent lamps =P
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