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KLH
Fri Apr 03 2009, 10:17PM
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What are the sizes of those ferrite toroidal cores you have? They seem fairly large. I can't seem to find any sizes bigger than FT-290.
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pretty swweet variac

you can get monster ferrite cores out of the yolk of a tv? I have found a few that weight in the pounds amazed
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Tiberius
Fri Apr 17 2009, 04:14AM
Tiberius Registered Member #1484 Joined: Wed May 14 2008, 03:24PM
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Neat, I think that's a stack of the exact same Variac I have, W50H. There's an irritating-to-access fuse behind the panel there, if you haven't found it. It's a slow-blow type and supposedly it will allow around 150% current for a minute. There's also a whole lot of documentation about them on IET Labs website, including the uprating curves and limiting curves of the fuse in pulsed operation. When the fuse it blows the replacement part is pretty hard to order and quite overpriced -- I spent like $40 on a pack of 3 fuses for mine sad When I run out of fuses I will be fusing it with some bus bar tongue
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Marko
Fri Apr 17 2009, 12:57PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Hi christopher -

That is one admirable transformer - at school we have a 3 phase variac with about the same 'segment' size but is only rated 10A per toroid. I wonder if that is because each of them uses only a single brush?

I have some other questions as well:

...Have you considered the heavy 'inrush' current the large variac can draw when plugged in without load? It was impossible for us to plug in even a smaller 5A variac at school without blowing 16A fuses instantly. The way we got around that was to use a beefy 3 phase potentiometer, connect the variac over it first and tehn slide the resistance to zero.

The classic way of startup, though, would be to use few hundred ohm resistors which are shorted over by a relay after a 500ms or so delay.

I don't know whether that will matter for your massive 100A+ feeds but I'd try to avoid massive current surges when possible.


Also, what is the black material you're using for your output chokes? I thought it has to be strip wound iron, so is it suspended in some sort of resin?

Cheers,

Marko
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Dr. Drone
Fri Apr 17 2009, 06:55PM
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Marko
Sat Apr 18 2009, 09:30PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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I'd consider 2000 watt resistors pretty oversized for startup - a 500 resistor would continuously dissipate less than 150W in your case if relay was malfunctioning and the output was shorted... and in operation the resistors aren't going to see dissipation but for a second or two before they're shorted over by a relay. So you could probably even go with small 10W resistors as long as you don't try to run a load over them without the realy acting!

..Otherwise I'm curious, what is the trip current of your breakers at home right now? amazed

Cheers,

Marko

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Sun Apr 19 2009, 07:33AM
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Finn Hammer
Fri Jul 10 2009, 06:28PM
Finn Hammer Registered Member #205 Joined: Sat Feb 18 2006, 11:59AM
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Chris,

I wish it was I _and_ Huben working on that variac.
Here they cost 5000 grand new. Wish I had a submarine.....

Cheers, Finn Hammer
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Plasma Lover
Mon Jul 13 2009, 05:31PM
Plasma Lover Registered Member #1911 Joined: Mon Jan 05 2009, 06:30PM
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Finn Hammer wrote ...

Chris,

I wish it was I _and_ Huben working on that variac.
Here they cost 5000 grand new. Wish I had a submarine.....

Cheers, Finn Hammer


Holy crap...A single variac costs five million dollars? ;)
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