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*Specs, schematic, and construction photos have been added below*
Here are a few pictures of my first DRSSTC. Distance to the target is 43". These are just preliminary photos at about 95VAC into the doubler. The physical dimensions are based on one of Steve's coils, 6" PVC secondary 22" high. The drive circuit is also loosely based on Steve's, primary current feedback, active current control and a huge gdt for the CM300 half-bridge modules. Although I independently designed the drive circuit there are similarities to Steve's so I must give credit where credit is due.
I was looking for 4'-5' with this coil and it appears that I should be able to achieve this fairly easily. Full schematics and pictures at full power will be posted when I have some more time.
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Some very nice strikes If your planning to run it at even higher power I would advice you to use a snubber circuit or tvs on the IGBT's I bit more powerfull diodes for the doubler would also come in handy.
Some more information on the coil would be great too. Those CM-300's should be able to get even longer arcs. I managed 1.8 meters so far with a 1 meter high secondary and a H-bridge of CM-300's running at 350V.
Hope to see some even longer arcs from your coil soon
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General Max spark length 61" @ 8 RF cycles Operating frequency of 71KHz
Drive Primary current feedback Self tuning Over Current Protection Adjustable duty cyle and break rate
Inverter Full Bridge of two CM300 halfbridge modules Total electrolytic storage capacitance 6000uF Total film bypass capacitance 20uF Tank capacitance 350nF @ 4000VDC (.1uF CDE942's)
Secondary 6" PVC 22" of winding 30 AWG mag wire Stacked toroid of 7" dryer duct on top of 6" dryer duct
Drive circuit theory of operation The cycle begins with the astable timer outputting a short negative pulse, this pulse in turn triggers the monostable timer on the falling portion of the pulse, and then triggers the D-type flip flop clock input on the rising portion of the pulse causing the output to go high. This negative triggering pulse needs to be long enough to give the output of the monostable timer enough time for the output to go high before triggering the flip flop. The high output of the flip folp enables the UCC27324 fet driver, which then drives the mosfets of the discrete full bridge GDT driver, which then drive the CM300 half bridge modules. The 50:1 current transformer is phased to have a negative output on this first RF half cycle. Once the first half of the RF cycle is completed the current in the primary tank circuit continues to flow through the freewheel diodes of the CM300 modules thus driving the output of the 50:1 current transformer high, which drives the UCC FET driver and so forth, this drives the CM300 modules in opposite polarity from the first RF half cycle. When the second RF halfcycle is complete the 50:1 current transformer output goes low, this causes a low to high transition on the clock input of the flip flop, if the data input is high then the output of the flip flop output will remain high and keep the UCC FET drive enabled for an additional full RF cycle. When the data input to the flip flop is low, either from the monostable duty cycle timer, or the monostable over current protection timer overriding the duty cycle timer and pulling the data input low, the flip flop will syncronize the enable signal and the drive signal of the UCC FET driver, preventing mid RF cycle turn off. The overcurrent detection circuit was borrowed from from Steve Ward. It should be noted that the two diode resistor pairs of R1 & D1 and also R2 & D2 form AND gates with the point where Rn & Dn connect being the output.
A quirk of this circuit is that the flip flop needs to be enabled with power going to the inverter. This is because without power to the inverter there will be no current flowing and no feedback via the 50:1 CT, thus no high to low transitions of the CT and no triggering of the flip flop. So what happens is the flip flop gets triggered by the astable timer once where the output goes high, and then stays high due to no low to high transitions on the clock input.
Overall I can say that I am very pleased with the performance of the driver.
Pictures were taken during construction and there have been a few changes since.
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Why thank you! Too bad it doesn't look like that right now. The whole things a mess right now, I'm working on the final version right now, all the control electronics are going in a 3U rack case.
@ Dalus The bridge is something like 25A @ 600V so I don't think it will need upgrading anytime soon.
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