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Mattski
Wed Feb 25 2009, 08:48AM
Mattski Registered Member #1792 Joined: Fri Oct 31 2008, 08:12PM
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aonomus wrote ...

I heard on IRC some time ago that someone ordering from Digikey already has to 'sign' a waiver agreeing not to use parts ordered for 'terrorism', not sure if its true.
(snip)

Well, it does not mention terrorism their Terms and Conditions. I didn't notice it in the last order I placed. Although of course if it did pop up at some point I probably would have clicked "Agree" without really reading it...
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Steve Conner
Wed Feb 25 2009, 12:21PM
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American electronics companies have had clauses like this ever since the first Operation Freedom Fries, err, I mean Gulf War. I remember it when ordering samples from Analog Devices in the 1990s. You have to tick a box promising that you won't use the parts to make bombs or re-export them to any country that the USA has trade sanctions with.

I think it's just an ass-covering clause for the company, so if they get implicated in some scandal, they can say that they didn't knowingly break these sanctions. Of course the first thing they teach you in terrorist school is to tick that box regardless when sampling your krytrons Link2
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Conundrum
Wed Feb 25 2009, 07:13PM
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Hmm. Interesting article.

FWIW, if you are really desperate to get your hands on "interesting" parts, a lot of the old style xenon tube based "flash" photocopiers use nice high voltage supplies as well as pretty neat HV switches (possibly argon based, not sure) to dump the unused flash energy into a resistor for exposure control. i think its called a "tailbiter" circuit.

/me sets Black Helicopter Watch to DEFCON 2...

-A

"Bother" said Pooh, as the FBI confiscated his pr0n collection...
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Tom540
Wed Feb 25 2009, 08:23PM
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This kind of stuff really irritates me because deep down a joke could easily become reality in this paranoid world. If they're going to get paranoid about electronics then hey why not do the same thing with metal pipe or fertilizer or how about everything else they sell at home depot. Maybe we should just go back and live like the Amish or maybe we should all read the unabombers manifesto and live like he did. lol
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EEYORE
Wed Feb 25 2009, 09:20PM
EEYORE Registered Member #99 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:10PM
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I blame MTV (which has nothing to do with music anymore) and all the rap/hip-hop sh*T that has been ruining our brains for the past 20 years. The REAL problem is lack of education. People FEAR what they dont UNDERSTAND. 50 years ago NONE of this BS existed. Education went down, snoop dog went up, and down came our minds.

Wanna guess how many times I was called a terrorist back in middle/high school? tongue
Ugggg....Id rather go to jail than to accept a life without electronics/nuclear radiation/lasers. Sure I have lasers that can instantly blind and uranium that COULD be a hazard if crushed and inhaled...But the sun can also blind the retards that get high and stare at it and weed is carcinogenic! Cant ban the sun, and everyone wants weed legalized...

Back in the 50's it was all about experimenting with rockets and radios. Now its ALL about clubbing and getting some ass. Getting wasted and getting high are the only thing people do around here aside from catching STD's cuz they are in everyone else' pants! When they catch a glimpse of one of my projects, they promptly cry terrorist. (Ive had SWAT, and HAZMAT sack my apartment before over the manager finding H202 next to a vacuum tube!)

Soon we ALL will be forced to be on soma pills and our minds locked away...RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Matt
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aonomus
Wed Feb 25 2009, 10:00PM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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Maybe you are right mattrg2, MTV and media in general has idolized all that is bad, criminal, etc. and demonized any kind of achievement, personal, academic, or professional....
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Steve Conner
Wed Feb 25 2009, 10:16PM
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And of course Yevgeny Zamyatin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_(novel) predicted all of this, and to add insult to injury, the bourgeois pigs Orwell and Huxley ripped off his plot for 1984 and Brave New World.

In a final ironic twist, 1984 was eventually published in the Soviet Union, the very system it was satirizing, in 1988. 20 years on, and Russian teens probably think Big Brother is a TV show.

Conundrum, if you can make a nuclear device out of a photocopier, you're so going to get Slashdotted.


[Edit: Fixed URL]
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aonomus
Wed Feb 25 2009, 10:41PM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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@ Steve McConner: your link = teh broken

Sooner or later Obama will declare a 2+2=5 stimulus plan.
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EEYORE
Wed Feb 25 2009, 10:49PM
EEYORE Registered Member #99 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:10PM
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aonomus wrote ...

@ Steve McConner: your link = teh broken

Sooner or later Obama will declare a 2+2=5 stimulus plan.

Hasnt he already begun turning the wheels for that? Seriosuly though, Id be careful what you say about him. He has alot of irrational support out there. (I am not claiming that those that support him are irrational, but that many that do support him do so for irrational reasons. ) Those people that support him like zealots can make trouble for you, so Id lay low and watch what I say and to whom I say it.

Matt
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Tom540
Thu Feb 26 2009, 12:06AM
Tom540 Banned on 3/17/2009.
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Tom540 wrote ...

This kind of stuff really irritates me because deep down a joke could easily become reality in this paranoid world. If they're going to get paranoid about electronics then hey why not do the same thing with metal pipe or fertilizer or how about everything else they sell at home depot. Maybe we should just go back and live like the Amish or maybe we should all read the unabombers manifesto and live like he did. lol

Jokes aside his manifesto is pretty much dead on. At least what I've read so far.
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