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AndrewM
Fri Feb 20 2009, 07:56AM Print
AndrewM Registered Member #49 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:05AM
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I need a suggestion for a substance with a bunch of specific properties - I'm using this in a multi-phased mixture so I need good compatibility with the neighboring phases. This is a tall order, I know, but here is what I need:

-Density > 1.1g/ml
-Nonpolar, or at least will not dissolve a highly polar neighboring phase.
-Doesn't react appreciably with low concentrations of aqueous ammonia.
-Contains no water or hydroxide ions.
-Low viscosity - which I take to mean "lower than glycerine" which proved too thick for my use.

My thought is mercury, however mercury has some bad habits of its own. The alternative is a mercury substitute like a gallium alloy, but those are a real pain in the ass to work with because they wet everything and are $$$. Glycerine proved too thick, and it seems to collect water.

Thoughts?

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usaman65
Fri Feb 20 2009, 11:42AM
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Bamacoiler
Fri Feb 20 2009, 01:56PM
Bamacoiler Registered Member #1628 Joined: Wed Aug 06 2008, 08:48PM
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I also have a 1lb. bottle of mercury for trade if interested.
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Conundrum
Fri Feb 20 2009, 06:38PM
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Can you use BiInSn alloy? Bismuth, indium and tin?

costs a bit but its called "Chipquik" and is easy to get hold of.
-A
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AndrewM
Fri Feb 20 2009, 10:47PM
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Has to be liquid at STP, chipquik and other low-melt alloys (Fields/Woods metal) are out. The "highly polar neighboring phase" has one hell of a vapor pressure and also burns the eyes, so I can't heat things up. :(
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Bored Chemist
Sat Feb 21 2009, 01:32AM
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It's about half past one from my point of view, but have you looked at this?
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john bunsenburner
Sun Feb 22 2009, 09:48AM
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I agree to bored chemist, galinstan woudl be the best alternative for you and could even be produced at home if you cannot get hold of the alloy. If you are making a reaction i think that the NaK alloy is of no use to you but it too would eb an alternative as it has a low melting point and is, to my knowlage, only reactive but not toxic. There are three more allyos that could be used by you either:

1.Ga 62.5, In 21.5, Sn 16.0
2.Ga 69.8, In 17.6, Sn 12.5
3.Cs 77.0, K 23.0
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Bored Chemist
Sun Feb 22 2009, 10:18AM
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The alkali metals and their alloys are not compatible with this requirement from the original post "Doesn't react appreciably with low concentrations of aqueous ammonia."
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john bunsenburner
Sun Feb 22 2009, 10:40AM
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ooops, missed that, i am afraid i cannot help you out there...
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AndrewM
Mon Feb 23 2009, 03:53PM
AndrewM Registered Member #49 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:05AM
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thanks for the help guys. the only obstacle to the galinstan is the cost, and it's poor manners (sticks to EVERYTHING), however I guess those can be overcome. I need about 25-50mL of whatever I choose, and while I have some galinstan, 7gm (maybe 1ml) was $21!!

Does anyone know of something that galinstan doesn't wet?
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