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usaman65
Tue Feb 24 2009, 02:20AM
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Believe me id rather keep this trinitite then have to go through all of this trouble to trade for something that somebody built in theyre basement.

kev
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Chris Russell
Tue Feb 24 2009, 02:29AM
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You should probably hang onto it, then. As far as you're concerned, it is authentic, so its value is much higher to you than to someone who has no way of knowing for sure. Grumbling about it isn't going to change that underlying problem; it's only going to make people think you're being unreasonable, or that you're not being honest.
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Hon1nbo
Tue Feb 24 2009, 02:33AM
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I'll put a call to a local university to see if they can help... I need to go there anyways to check some various sample's exact content... maybe I could try and see if they'll check this?
You already have my contact stuff, so let me know and I'll call them if you want

and if it is verified, I'll get printouts of the exact content...
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EEYORE
Tue Feb 24 2009, 06:51AM
EEYORE Registered Member #99 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:10PM
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Chris Russell wrote ...

You should probably hang onto it, then. As far as you're concerned, it is authentic, so its value is much higher to you than to someone who has no way of knowing for sure. Grumbling about it isn't going to change that underlying problem; it's only going to make people think you're being unreasonable, or that you're not being honest.

I will have to second this. I can say from experience that you just cant go around thinking you have something and expect others to think so too. I dont know how much you want for your trinitite, but if its relatively $$$ then you really need to have docs to go along with it. I sell uranium ores and high power lasers on ebay. Some stuff is worth hundreds of dollars and people sure as hell want more than just my word that its legit. No reason to get insulted by our questions, its just good business! During a reccession, you can bet people will ask questions before handing over money. If you spent alot of money on it, I would hope you had some proof it was legit. Your lucky some people are showing interest in it here. Thats rare! (radioactives). Show them you know your business and provide them with docs.

If it really is worth alot to you, you ought to take some pride in it and have a piece tested at a lab. (Or talk a university into it). Check out the CDV700 club online. They are some nice people and a few have the ability to check your stuff for you. One guy even offers to scan your rocks just so he can use his machine! Now realize, I am not trying to put you down. I am just trying to help you out a little.

Good luck!
Matt
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usaman65
Tue Feb 24 2009, 11:18PM
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I a willing to send a some samples of my material to whoever if going to get stuff tested free of charge.

kev
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Hon1nbo
Tue Feb 24 2009, 11:48PM
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
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usaman65 wrote ...

I a willing to send a some samples of my material to whoever if going to get stuff tested free of charge.

kev

I'll call my area's Universities... many students at my school have done projects there, so it likely should not be an issue... and I won't charge...
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usaman65
Wed Feb 25 2009, 08:30PM
usaman65 Registered Member #1364 Joined: Thu Feb 28 2008, 09:09PM
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alright, sure, as soon as I get your package back ill send you some trinitite to have tested along with the pitchblende. by the way, is that your hottest thing in your collection now?

how hot was the aluminum from the beta radiation? I have wrapped some bagged samples in al foil here and found that the aluminum is strongly adioactive after this....

kev
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EEYORE
Wed Feb 25 2009, 10:52PM
EEYORE Registered Member #99 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:10PM
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usaman65 wrote ...

alright, sure, as soon as I get your package back ill send you some trinitite to have tested along with the pitchblende. by the way, is that your hottest thing in your collection now?

how hot was the aluminum from the beta radiation? I have wrapped some bagged samples in al foil here and found that the aluminum is strongly adioactive after this....

kev

Radiation doesnt make things radioactive. You probably have bits of ore (dust maybe, or radon) present on the foil ( in other words, your foil is contaminated with ore)...
Matt
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Hon1nbo
Wed Feb 25 2009, 11:52PM
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
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usaman65 wrote ...

alright, sure, as soon as I get your package back ill send you some trinitite to have tested along with the pitchblende. by the way, is that your hottest thing in your collection now?

how hot was the aluminum from the beta radiation? I have wrapped some bagged samples in al foil here and found that the aluminum is strongly adioactive after this....

kev

the U-238 will be in the mail soon, and ore is always hotter than the metal as the metal is too dense for most of the radiation to escape, and I have not check the pitchblende against my other samples of ore...



Radiation doesnt make things radioactive. You probably have bits of ore (dust maybe, or radon) present on the foil ( in other words, your foil is contaminated with ore)...
Matt

radon is a gas, and unless the aluminum was made in a very peculiar way, it would not be present once the package was opened... I think you meant to write that it is ore, or Polonium... the next step in the decay series past Radon IIRC...
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EEYORE
Thu Feb 26 2009, 01:20AM
EEYORE Registered Member #99 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:10PM
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DaJJHman wrote ...

usaman65 wrote ...

alright, sure, as soon as I get your package back ill send you some trinitite to have tested along with the pitchblende. by the way, is that your hottest thing in your collection now?

how hot was the aluminum from the beta radiation? I have wrapped some bagged samples in al foil here and found that the aluminum is strongly adioactive after this....

kev

the U-238 will be in the mail soon, and ore is always hotter than the metal as the metal is too dense for most of the radiation to escape, and I have not check the pitchblende against my other samples of ore...



Radiation doesnt make things radioactive. You probably have bits of ore (dust maybe, or radon) present on the foil ( in other words, your foil is contaminated with ore)...
Matt

radon is a gas, and unless the aluminum was made in a very peculiar way, it would not be present once the package was opened... I think you meant to write that it is ore, or Polonium... the next step in the decay series past Radon IIRC...

Radon is a gas that is heavier than air. It will not just simply float away if its packaged up (which I imagine the trinitite was). Some may very well have been present. I highly doubt enough Polonium would have been present from decay of radon to be detected by a cheapo gieger counter. If not radon gas, it is most deffinately specks of trinitite.

And U238 is less active than the ore because the ore STILL has the U-235 still in it (This Iso is what causes most the radiation and is why its extracted.) What you have is depleted uranium metal. This is the left overs (waste) from the processing done to the ore. Radium also exists in the ore, which also accounts for it being hotter. (And is also removed in the process).

Basically, U-238 (depleted uranium) is food that has passed through the digestive system. (Its poop!). It is not valued for its activity at all, but just because it is uranium metal. It is also useful as weight for various things. I have uraninite that is dense as hell (SOLID PURE URANINITE) that will knock your socks off (if you think U-238 is hot and trinitite is hot). The density does block some betas and all the alphas but just a tad of the gammas.


Matt
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