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aonomus
Mon Jan 05 2009, 12:58AM Print
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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So I found a store that sells old vacuum tubes in a gigantic pile, and I'm wondering what the most common tubes that have been known to work are...

I already know that 811's, 833's (unlikely to be found), and 6146A's work, anyone else use other tubes?
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Corey
Mon Jan 05 2009, 01:04AM
Corey Registered Member #1902 Joined: Fri Jan 02 2009, 07:59PM
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I've seen vttcs on youtube that use the GU-81M tube. Good Luck
-Corey
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HV Enthusiast
Mon Jan 05 2009, 01:50AM
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Any triode should work quite well and easy to use. Other types of tubes can also be used, but might need additional grid control etc...

833's are easy to find but usually not cheap.

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Myke
Mon Jan 05 2009, 01:56AM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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If you can pick tubes out of a pile, just look for tubes that are physically big. They usually have a high plate voltage.
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Herr Zapp
Mon Jan 05 2009, 02:37AM
Herr Zapp Registered Member #480 Joined: Thu Jul 06 2006, 07:08PM
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aonomus -

What you are looking for are medium-power transmitting triodes. Generally, when you find a "pile of tubes" at surplus stores, thrift shops, etc they are radio and television receiving tubes. You'll have better chances of finding transmitting tubes at "hamfests" and amatuer radio get-togethers, or eBay.

If you can find them in good condition, there are many different types of triodes that work well for small to medium sized VTTCs. Some of the more common military and commercial types are: 211 (VT-4C), 805, 806, 810, 811A, 812, 250 (TL or TH), 304 (TL or TH), T40, 572, T200, T300, 833 (A or C), along with many more less commonly seen types.

Also usable are "industrial" triodes used in RF induction heaters.

If you find any candidates, first turn the tube sideways and very gently tap it while looking for any tiny wire fragments (pieces of broken filament or grid).

Check that the mirror-like "getter" deposit on the inside of the tube is bright silver colored, without any fading around the edges or "rainbow" appearance.

Check for filament continuity. Be aware that some tubes (like 304 series) have multiple filament segments, and should show continuity between three of the base pins.

Good triodes are getting harder to find, as tube collectors like them for their "vintage" appearance, and the tube-audio guys are willing to pay astronomical prices for good functional tubes.

Regards,
Herr Zapp
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aonomus
Mon Jan 05 2009, 02:39AM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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Any specific number of pins I should be looking for?

Essentially the store (which I'm going to tomorrow, and I don't get to go to often) has these cardboard boxes of tubes on the floor filled with tons of old ones, $1 a piece... so hence the semi-vauge question.
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Herr Zapp
Mon Jan 05 2009, 04:11AM
Herr Zapp Registered Member #480 Joined: Thu Jul 06 2006, 07:08PM
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aonomus -

Most of the triodes I listed will have a four-pin base.

Visit a tube-collector's website like: Link2, and search the tube numbers I provided in my earlier post.

This will give you some idea of what to look for.

Regards,
Herr Zapp
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aonomus
Mon Jan 05 2009, 04:29AM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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Just did some checking, apparently a few hamfests coming up in a few weeks-months in my area, I'll try my best to get out to one of them and scrounge.
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Herr Zapp
Mon Jan 05 2009, 04:30AM
Herr Zapp Registered Member #480 Joined: Thu Jul 06 2006, 07:08PM
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aonomus -

Most of the triodes I listed will have a four-pin base.

Visit a tube-collector's website like: Link2, and search the tube numbers I provided in my earlier post.

This will give you some idea of what to look for.

Regards,
Herr Zapp
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Dr. Drone
Mon Jan 05 2009, 04:54AM
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