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Ken M.
Mon Sept 24 2007, 04:42AM
Ken M. Registered Member #618 Joined: Sat Mar 31 2007, 04:15AM
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Nah theres No where near the power to cook any part of the sub, although enough energy to cause the arcs to heat teh salt on the bread, and make the arc at teh base glow red. Although the 4" coil would cook something pretty well...may wanna try that! =)
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Firnagzen
Mon Sept 24 2007, 06:55AM
Firnagzen Registered Member #567 Joined: Tue Mar 06 2007, 10:55AM
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Pop the sandwich (Subway?) on a DRSSTC and see what happens. I reckon there's enough power there! By the way, ugh. What's that blackish stain on your torroid?

Also, jmartis, what's a tesla tube scope?
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uzzors2k
Mon Sept 24 2007, 02:30PM
uzzors2k Registered Member #95 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:57PM
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Firnagzen wrote ...

Also, jmartis, what's a tesla tube scope?

A brand of scopes made with tubes.
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Ken M.
Mon Sept 24 2007, 06:33PM
Ken M. Registered Member #618 Joined: Sat Mar 31 2007, 04:15AM
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Sandwich, yes subway (Itallian BMT). Yea I imagine the the sub would have been toasted. The blackish stain...I think that was from when I sat the toroid on top of the 4" coil and I had some wire over hang and the wire got vaporized and left a black mark.
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Nik
Tue Sept 25 2007, 12:36AM
Nik Registered Member #53 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:31AM
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Some high-res close up photos of jacobs ladder arcs. Lots of thing to see that you don't notice when you see them in person. There is a patter to how the arc moves up the rail, does any one know why?
1190680577 53 FT6000 Dsc01394
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Coronafix
Tue Sept 25 2007, 01:41AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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To do with the frequency it is running at. It's moving up while turning
on and off.
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ragnar
Tue Sept 25 2007, 02:00AM
ragnar Registered Member #63 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:18AM
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The position of the hot rising gas is a continuous variable. The rate of your inducing the sparks is a discrete variable, and they'll appear at the drive frequency of your coil, wherever that line of heated/ionized gas happens to be.
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Nik
Tue Sept 25 2007, 02:06AM
Nik Registered Member #53 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:31AM
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I knew it was the frequency of the arc flipping on and off, I meant the smaller point of contact VS the larger ones.
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Sulaiman
Tue Sept 25 2007, 05:01AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
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alternating current!

Positive and negative alternating.

positive terminals tend to 'throw-off' positively charged metal ions, negative terminals attract them
negative terminals emit electrons probably, or something like that

I think that the brighter ends of the arcs are the positive ends ejecting copper ions.
(I'm guessing here)

I'm sure someone will have a better description.
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Myke
Tue Sept 25 2007, 06:36AM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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I think it's the negative end that glows because if you connect a neon lamp to DC the negative electrode is the one that glows. I don't know if it's caused by the electrons leaving the electrode or the metal ions hitting it but I think it's most likely the electrons leaving the electrode which then ionizes the gas.
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