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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Sun Sept 10 2006, 02:32AM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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that cap has suffered damage!
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Alex
Sun Sept 10 2006, 03:15AM
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Nice collection of books (oh, and nice cap too). smile
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Chris Russell
Sun Sept 10 2006, 04:24PM
Chris Russell ... not Russel!
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog) wrote ...

that cap has suffered damage!

No, if you look around, they all look like that, at least from this manufacturer. At the final stage of manufacture, they burn off any remaining air in the tube. It ruins the nice copper gleam around the inner electrode, but it still works perfectly. That's why most pics of this tube are taken with the inner electrode fully extended; it's prettier that way.

Here's a closeup, just for fun:

1157905477 1 FT6000 Innertrack
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The Wumpus
Sun Sept 10 2006, 11:28PM
The Wumpus Registered Member #325 Joined: Fri Mar 17 2006, 12:42AM
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Playing around with a stogie and a 100mW green laser (can you see the green dragon? wink ) :


1157930838 325 FT6000 Cigar1

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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Mon Sept 11 2006, 01:10AM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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No Chris. I know a guy at the TRW swapmeet that sells Vac. Caps and they do not all look like that. We even talked about this. That cap has suffered some serious arc over flashing.

They do not burn off the air either. They use a Gettering mixture of metals to absorb trace gasses in the envelope. The gettering material is usually Barium and Calcuim metals, sometimes Magnesium to remove Oxygen specifically.

But they do not all look like that.
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Chris Russell
Mon Sept 11 2006, 03:06AM
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This particular manufacturer doesn't use getters, they burn off the last of the air by intentionally inducing breakdown at low power. Every other tube of this rating (or similar ratings) that I've seen from this manufacturer bears the same markings. These tubes were originally built for use in Soviet Army radio gear... they aren't always pretty, but they work and work well.

For what it's worth, I have never seen a Jennings with similar markings, so I can see why one would be concerned. It does look like damage at first glance. A careful inspection reveals that they are surface blemishes on the copper only, and that there's no damage to the metal underneath whatsoever. I've also personally tested it to 8.5kV (highest I can generate at the moment).
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SpyrosF
Tue Sept 12 2006, 03:46PM
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TEA laser channel glow discharge. Electrodes gap is ~2mm . Air is used as laser gas
Picture is unmodified (only cropped)
1158075980 352 FT6000 Air Laser 10
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Tesladownunder
Sun Sept 24 2006, 01:49AM
Tesladownunder Registered Member #10 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:45AM
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1157732620 53 FT6000 Dsc00026
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Oh he is cute.. I want one for a pet
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That looks like a bot fly...UGGG...Dont want that for a pet!
Matt
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It's a cicada. Some of the Australian cicadas can be a couple of inches long and bright green, orange or purple. They make very loud chirping sounds in the daytime in summer and are very much a part of the Australian "bush" experience. They are mostly harmless and only take small children.

Now for one of mine. Have you ever seen a better UFO photo? This is just rotated and cropped and was taken with a flash but not altered otherwise. Fired from my latest vortex ring generator.

Peter

1159062575 10 FT6000 Vortexphysicsskyufo
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Marko
Sun Sept 24 2006, 12:35PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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It's a cicada. Some of the Australian cicadas can be a couple of inches long and bright green, orange or purple. They make very loud chirping sounds in the daytime in summer and are very much a part of the Australian "bush" experience. They are mostly harmless and only take small children.

One on nik's hand is exactly the same from wikipedia.
Ours aren't as close as docile and you can catch them only by suprise sad.
Also have wierd big eyes and funny fins on head, but differ in color and are a bit bigger.
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Simon
Mon Sept 25 2006, 12:25AM
Simon Registered Member #32 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 08:58AM
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Tesladownunder wrote ...

Now for one of mine. Have you ever seen a better UFO photo? This is just rotated and cropped and was taken with a flash but not altered otherwise. Fired from my latest vortex ring generator.
Brilliant! Especially considering how far this chicken feeder got.
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