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Anyone used this anitdepressant before?

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Arcstarter
Wed Nov 12 2008, 09:40PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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Uzzors wrote ...

Comforting.

I don't think you rely on drugs this young, Matthew. Remember, try to keep busy with things you like, and we're here if you need someone to talk to.
Well, that truly is comforting. Yea, my doctor is a pill pusher. I was off of pills for like a month and this morning was the first one i had. I wanted to stay off of all medications, but when you feel suicidal, your mother will want to get you something to keep you from doing it :P. I am still dizzy, and i feel kinda funny, but it might all be in my head, even though i dont think it is. My hands look weird, like kinda purple looking veins, but that is almost definitely in my head.
Also, when i am in pain i try not to take pain killers, my brother suggested it will damage your liver, and that is why he doesn't take them. Funny thing is he was smoking a cigarette when he said that.

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101111
Wed Nov 12 2008, 10:49PM
101111 Registered Member #575 Joined: Sun Mar 11 2007, 04:00AM
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First of all, in many cases it is not how you got it, but how you handle it. I have seriously anger problems, when I get really mad I almost get uncontrollable. I usually hits a door or a wall until it breaks or my hands are to bloody/crushed to be used any more or I will throw whatever that is in front of me.
This can be a bit pain, one time I took a pizza out of the oven and accidental lost it on the floor, I actually don't remember so much of that incident but I broke a window and the the window to the oven. It all ended in a expensive affair.

What I am trying to say that we all have our problems, and that fact that you actually broke the taboo about talking about your feelings is really great. (Yeah, I think that for us "guys" that is a taboo) Anyway, drop me an Email or add me to MSN if you ever need you need to just.. Talk..
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ragnar
Thu Nov 13 2008, 12:05AM
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Chris_R hit the nail -- it's easy to be very self-satisfied with completing (or attempting) interesting projects (even just game-programming), getting a job, or having a good relationship. These rites of passage in your life are Good Things, and you can usually keep evidence of your achievements for later times you want to reflect or when you need motivation.

The difficulty with most antidepressants is that they take some time to affect the body, so there is a wind-up period. Later on, missing doses of medication can be unsafe. Plus you have to pay for it and remember to take it every day, and I'm told it does not mix well at all with alcohol.
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Dr. Drone
Thu Nov 13 2008, 12:39AM
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HV Enthusiast
Thu Nov 13 2008, 12:44AM
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Matt Bingham wrote ...

Chris_R hit the nail -- it's easy to be very self-satisfied with completing (or attempting) interesting projects (even just game-programming), getting a job, or having a good relationship. These rites of passage in your life are Good Things, and you can usually keep evidence of your achievements for later times you want to reflect or when you need motivation.

The difficulty with most antidepressants is that they take some time to affect the body, so there is a wind-up period. Later on, missing doses of medication can be unsafe. Plus you have to pay for it and remember to take it every day, and I'm told it does not mix well at all with alcohol.

Well firstly, alcohol itself is a depressant, so you should not be drinking it to begin with if you are clinically depressed.

Also, feeling depressed and having clinical depression are two different things. Clinical depression is a very serious illness, which it thought to be caused by chemical imbalances in the brain, although the exact causes and mechanisms are not yet fully understood. Just like you would treat an infection with an antibiotic, an anti-depressant can help restore the proper chemical balance.

And yes, the advice about keeping busy is a very good one. Typically, true clinical depression is treated in a multi-faceted approach. One being medications, to at least get your started (especially if you so depressed you are suicidal and cannot function at all), and the second usually being therapy - most commonly cognitive behaviour therapy (CBT) which trains you to think differently etc...

Do antidepressants have side effects? Absolutely. All drugs have side-effects. However, you and your doctor will need to discuss those side-effects and compare benefits vs. risk, just as you would with any medicine.

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Yea, i figured that, but with my psychiatrist we are in and out in 5 minutes, and he obviously doesn't know much about medicine, cause when i went in there last time and told him what was up he said "i really don't know what to do right now, so i will just put you on this pill and see what happens". But, i also go to a psychologist, and she actually knows more that the psychiatrist does about the pills and effects. I am going to make an appointment with her and see what she thinks.

Well, sounds to me from that paragraph you aren't happy with your psychiatrist. Time to find a new one.

Also, remember, psychiatrists are doctors and they are mostly there to prescribe you medicine to get you back on your feet. Typically, you would have a psychiatrist for the meds, and then also have a psychologist or similar counselor do the CBT side of things or other discussions.

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I have been on Anti_D for over 20 years and have just about gone through all the Alpa and Beta blockers, etc. The current medication on is Paxil @ and very $.

Isn't Paxil off of patent? I would think the generic version of paxil would be inexpensive.
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badastronaut
Thu Nov 13 2008, 12:54AM
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I would have to completely agree with Dr. GigaVolt.

Please remember that doctors are people too, and they certainly aren't created equal if you get my drift ;) That being said, if you are unsatisfied with your healthcare professionals, I think it would be wise to find another one. Believe me, you don't want to be stuck with an idiot.

On side effects, most people have some sort of side effects, but most of them fade away after taking the meds for a few weeks/months. Some side effects may never dissappear. If the side effects bother you too much, then you should ask to be switched onto a different medication.

Medications are not the only answer. There are therapies that might appeal to you. Ask your doctor for alternatives if you desire it.

Also, antidepressants are prescribed for things other than depression such as anxiety or to work in concert with other meds. I don't think Arcstarter ever mentioned if he was diagnosed with depression. Clinical depression is different from the kind of sadness everyone feels every so often and isn't something you can control with, to quote Tom Cruise, "vitamins and excersize".
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Dr. Drone
Thu Nov 13 2008, 01:08AM
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Backyard Skunkworks
Thu Nov 13 2008, 03:32AM
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I'd really recomend taking up distance running. Running takes your mind off everything, and it always gives you something to improve at. Whenever your feeling really bad, go jogging for a good half hour or more and you'll feel far better when you finish than when you start. Running really gets you into shape too.
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coillah
Thu Nov 13 2008, 06:54AM
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Ok, So from what I have been reading in this thread you sound like you are in something like what I went through when I was your age.

I literally got over my stuff about a year ago. I did a lot of things during my teenage years, it was a real drain on me.

I changed my group of friends, started playing around with drugs, and basically forgot who I was. I let my parents take me to a shrink who told me I had Aspergers Syndrome. I became depressed that I was never going to be normal, and would have to deal with that all my life. I felt it was unfair, and it caused me to be very paranoid around people.

That lasted for about 4-5years, and it was pure hell. Talk about isolation.

Essentially what I came down to is, I am not different from anyone else. Everyone is just trying to live, and we should let them. Stay busy, stay positive. You cannot be a lump on a log.

Just try to relax man. It will not work at first, but if you keep doing it, eventually it will set in. Your mind is like a hard putty, the first few times you try to mold it, it will just spring back, but after a while it will begin to shape in a positive direction.

Bite your teeth and remember that life will not always feel this way. Somedays are worse than others, some are better, life is a sine wave man, just ride it.

Also, remind yourself of all the good things you have. Even if you can only think of one or two things, just hold onto them. All of this you will eventually realize on your own, but we say it now so that it gets imprinted, and to try and ease the pain.

Remember there is not a direct solution to most of life's problems, often the best solution will only appear after a while. But it is definetely worth it.

Oh, and look into Tyrosine, its a supplement, and I like to take it. It may be a placebo, but its cheap and it makes me feel good, I dont care if it isnt real. I never liked the AD I got from my doctors... too much like a zombie.
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Arcstarter
Thu Nov 13 2008, 03:44PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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coillah wrote ...

life is a sine wave man, just ride it.
Wow, man. You just reached me on a level i never thought possible..
:P
Anyway, i think i am gonna get off of this pill and start taking a supplement called GABA (stands for something like gamma-aminobutyric acid, but idk) Because it helped my mom out, and for some strange unexplained reason, it also got rid of her eczema. The problem is, they are quite big when it is not a capsule, just a solid pill thing. Like <-------------> that big and pretty wide :P. Scratches your throat on the way down;).
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