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Avalanche
Sun Mar 26 2006, 01:03PM
Avalanche Registered Member #103 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:16PM
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I think Teslas large coils (for power transmission) operated in CW mode - power was not a problem for some experiments, because he used a huge dynamo powered by an engine.
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HV Enthusiast
Sun Mar 26 2006, 02:59PM
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You need to remember that most of the extraordinary effects produced by Tesla's so called experiments just aren't true. The only documentation to these feats (cows getting shocked miles away) are various writings by local reporters which tend to grossly exxagerate and sensationalize the truth.

If you actually look into Tesla's colorado spring notes as well as the interpreted CS notes by Richard Hull, you'll learn that his coils were a lot less powerful than what most are led to believe.

Heck even the article written about me in Fortune magazine was oversensationalized to the point where the reader would actually believe i was creating full-scale lightning in my basement!

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Marko
Sun Mar 26 2006, 03:52PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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You need to remember that most of the extraordinary effects produced by Tesla's so called experiments just aren't true. The only documentation to these feats (cows getting shocked miles away) are various writings by local reporters which tend to grossly exxagerate and sensationalize the truth.


Well no need to ''convince'' me - it is common that reporters usually sensationalise truth.

I've read richard hull's notes but nowhere on the web I actually found details of tesla's magnifier (in colorado springs).

As far as I know it generated about 4 MV, some brief wiev how it looks and that's it.
Nowhere is stated exact input power (you need really heavy load to roast a power plant) then other parts, spark gap, capacitor, tetriary, topload of x size as sphere, etc...

Heck even the article written about me in Fortune magazine was oversensationalized to the point where the reader would actually believe i was creating full-scale lightning in my basement!


hehe after competition I found in newspaper that I actually INVENTED tesla col ill

cheesey
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Sun Mar 26 2006, 06:51PM
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A lot of these reports can be found in his biographies. I remember reading the account of the generator he caused to 'melt down' while waiting in the library, but its not in the C.S.N. or Hull's guide.
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ragnar
Sun Mar 26 2006, 07:33PM
ragnar Registered Member #63 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:18AM
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Firkragg wrote ...

...you need really heavy load to roast a power plant...

wrote ...

...set alight generator in powerplant wich tells how much power had to be wasted to do tihs...

wrote ...

...the generator he caused to 'melt down'...

One of his experiments damaged a Colorado Springs Electric Company generator by high frequency currents feeding back into it. I didn't think there was any overdraw of current.
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Marko
Sun Mar 26 2006, 08:18PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Thats what I also tought of, coupling back to supply probably caused internal arcover in generator.

But that is equally unlikely as overcurrent, powerplant generator is not something that brittle, windings are made of thick, heavy wires (or maybe bars is better name) and its over-engineered enough to withstand huge currents and lots of voltage before it eventually breaks down.

This one was probably of very poor construction, possibly because electricity wasnt so used in that age and power needs were small confused so 4MV magnifier showed up to be too much for it in some reason.








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ragnar
Mon Mar 27 2006, 05:29AM
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Marko
Mon Mar 27 2006, 12:05PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Do you really need to make an argument out of everything?A lot of what you say here is questionable, pessimistic, or just wrong, or unhelpful


Sorry, didnt mean to come off like that cry
I didnt want to argue about something that is not proven and questionable.
Maybe in the end whole genertor thing is oversized in reports from some more minor malfunction, who knows confused I just wanted to say my opinions and I never wanted to attack anyone. cry

And we ran out of topic...
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dex
Sat Mar 06 2010, 07:16PM
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EastVoltResearch wrote ...

You need to remember that most of the extraordinary effects produced by Tesla's so called experiments just aren't true. The only documentation to these feats (cows getting shocked miles away) are various writings by local reporters which tend to grossly exxagerate and sensationalize the truth.

If you actually look into Tesla's colorado spring notes as well as the interpreted CS notes by Richard Hull, you'll learn that his coils were a lot less powerful than what most are led to believe.

Heck even the article written about me in Fortune magazine was oversensationalized to the point where the reader would actually believe i was creating full-scale lightning in my basement!


Many of the claimed effects aren't true.For example, generation of terrestrial stationary waves or 120 feet long discharges .However,not just cows but people in the city touching water mains mile away sometimes experienced small shocks cheesey .If you read CSN you'll see why.How powerfull was CSN magnifier?Not sure,but Westinghouse transformer was 60 kVA rated.
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