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is this flyback ac?

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teslacoolguy
Sun Aug 17 2008, 04:39AM Print
teslacoolguy Registered Member #1107 Joined: Thu Nov 08 2007, 10:09PM
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I got a big screen (front projection) tv the other day and when i took it apart i dident even think of it but this morning i realized that the flyback may be ac because it is feeding the multiplier.
1218947912 1107 FT0 Acfb Out

1218947912 1107 FT0 Acfb In

What do you think?
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Dr. SSTC
Sun Aug 17 2008, 04:54AM
Dr. SSTC Registered Member #1407 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 07:09AM
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Hmmm doesnt really look ac, maybe it feeding an extra multiplier beacause that BIG screen needs a BIG voltage,
and its easier for a company to buy readily available parts instead of desining a new 100kv flyback

BTW there are some really nice heat sinks in there
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aonomus
Sun Aug 17 2008, 05:00AM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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I don't think its AC, AC usually are disc shaped iirc. The potted ones with 9 or 11 pins aren't AC. The disc shaped AC ones only have 2 or 3 wires coming out (or at least mine does)
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teslacoolguy
Sun Aug 17 2008, 05:18AM
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I have another flyback from a rear projection tv that has 15 pins on it and i know that it is ac. Even the disk shaped flybacks that i have have like 12 pins on it. It still doesent make sense why they would use a dc flyback and connect it to a multiplier/splitter
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Dr. Dark Current
Sun Aug 17 2008, 08:11AM
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The flyback is most likely DC and the other thing is not multiplier but probably just filter cap with splitter (and possibly focus/screen divider).
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101111
Sun Aug 17 2008, 01:06PM
101111 Registered Member #575 Joined: Sun Mar 11 2007, 04:00AM
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Can you check what number is on those STK chips? If I am not too wrong I believe it is chipamps that actually puts out decent sound quality.
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Antonio
Sun Aug 17 2008, 01:11PM
Antonio Registered Member #834 Joined: Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:57PM
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If you can measure a resistance between the high-voltage output and the ground, it is AC. Otherwise the rectifying diodes result in a too high voltage drop to allow measurement with a normal ohmmeter. And the resistance is the same in both directions.
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rp181
Sun Aug 17 2008, 02:19PM
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i think its DC, also, if you just want the core, the halves come right out after being in boiling water with a little pressure. Heatsinks are good too.
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quicksilver
Mon Aug 18 2008, 03:39PM
quicksilver Registered Member #1408 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 03:49PM
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You CAN find "modern looking" AC LOPT-flybacks - usually in black & white monitors for CCTV. The key will be a very simplistic constriction with absolutely no adjustments and unfortunately they are rather small. But they do exist aside from the disk shaped classic flyback design.

The cylinder that contains the secondary will be virtually round and won't have anything but ONE the HV lead to the CRT. The addition of the second red lead on your example makes me think that there is some format of rectifier: thus you're not putting out AC.

I know for a fact that B&W CCTV monitors made sold PELCO uses AC flybacks and cost very little. They are often junked by places that use small CCTV monitors in large quantity like casinos. They DO exist. The problem is finding a large one. I have quite a few little ones that I thought of setting up in series. The small ones DO exist They look like the classical DC enclosed flyback that has one HV red lead and NO budging from the secondary and a simple ten pin arraignment..

Most of these use a 12" screen and just don't require the energy to drive them.... hence the small LOPT. Your projection screen dflyback may have enormous potential as a DC flyback as they are usually quite powerful. But to get a modern AC you have to look for a VERY simple B&W monitor.
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Bennem
Mon Aug 18 2008, 04:18PM
Bennem Registered Member #154 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:28PM
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Hi guys,

Yes....that LOPTX output is rectified,
it then feeds a 'splitter' which feeds the EHT three ways for the three CRTS
as well as their focus and first anode voltages.

Thoughs 'STK..' ics are for convergence.

Mel.
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