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Just a general thread abut the Olympics. Aussies now 3rd in medal tally (pop 20 million) after USA (pop 300m) and China (1300m). There is a reasonably big sports culture here and the weather is generally good for outdoors sports. I was hoping Cadel Evans might do better in the cycling for Australia after his second in the Tour de France. Anyone with comments/insights into their own countries performance?
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Here is a note from Jeff Parisse's company that was arranging it. Posted to the Tesla coil mailing list. " 8.8.08 Signal Hill, California In November of 2007, Oct East Ltd. of the People's Republic of China hired kVA Effects to construct two Giant Tesla Coils that would be the largest in the World. These coils were to be permanently installed at the OCT East Water Park in Shenzhen China in time for the Olympics.
In mid April 2008, kVA Effects shipped two ocean containers to China which contained approximately 40,000lbs. of handmade Tesla Coil components necessary to construct the two Giant Tesla Coils.
Upon arrival, the Shenzhen Customs and Inspections Bureau seized both containers and trucks claiming that kVA Effects falsified international shipping documents as the shipment had originated from Hamburg Germany and not the United States of America as indicated. Furthermore, the Inspections Bureau claimed that the shipment consisted of used equipment in violation of Chinese law and the contract with OCT East.
kVA Effects responded by providing the Inspection Bureau with five hundred construction photographs, one hundred and two hours of construction video, copies of material receipts and signed affidavits from kVA Effects personnel and vendors to verify that the equipment is new. kVA Effects also informed the Inspection Bureau that the name of the cargo vessel that carried the containers to China is named "Hamburg" and that they found it curious how Chinese Officials could make such a mistake on an official Chinese form in Chinese.
The Inspection Bureau imposed a fine of approximately 1,000,000 Yuan and claimed it would increase each day of captivity. kVA Effects refused to pay any fines claiming it would be counter to its contract with OCT East and, because they felt the action rose to the level of extortion, the United States Department of State should be informed.
In late July, the Inspections Bureau released the Tesla Coil parts to OCT East. OCT East is demanding payment of the fines from kVA Effects counter to its contract with them.
As of Opening Ceremonies for the Olympics, OCT East has the merchandise and kVA Effects will watch the games from home.
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MadsKaizer wrote ...
What ever happend to the large tesla coils china ordered for the opening and closing ceremony?
I havent been able to find them in the footage from the olympics. They are said to produce 100feet streamers in this article
Maybe it is not so easy to simulate the performance of a big TC on computer like in case of their monster firework... Or maybe the air is so dirty there that it is becoming conductive and the coil did not work because of sparkovers
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two points
1.) The opening ceremonies were by far the most beautiful thing I have ever seen, I wish I could have been there to have seen it.
2.) I was saddened to hear about the Chinese girl lip-syncing because the real little girl wasn't cute enough. It's really sad when everyone talks about embracing everyone and then .. as regular as clockwork... disguises the truth for something as shallow as asthetics.
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Tesladownunder wrote ...
Here is a note from Jeff Parisse's company was arranging whose company was arranging it. Posted to the Tesla coil mailing list. " 8.8.08 Signal Hill, California In November of 2007, Oct East Ltd. of the People's Republic of China hired kVA Effects to construct two Giant Tesla Coils that would be the largest in the World. These coils were to be permanently installed at the OCT East Water Park in Shenzhen China in time for the Olympics.
In mid April 2008, kVA Effects shipped two ocean containers to China which contained approximately 40,000lbs. of handmade Tesla Coil components necessary to construct the two Giant Tesla Coils.
Upon arrival, the Shenzhen Customs and Inspections Bureau seized both containers and trucks claiming that kVA Effects falsified international shipping documents as the shipment had originated from Hamburg Germany and not the United States of America as indicated. Furthermore, the Inspections Bureau claimed that the shipment consisted of used equipment in violation of Chinese law and the contract with OCT East.
kVA Effects responded by providing the Inspection Bureau with five hundred construction photographs, one hundred and two hours of construction video, copies of material receipts and signed affidavits from kVA Effects personnel and vendors to verify that the equipment is new. kVA Effects also informed the Inspection Bureau that the name of the cargo vessel that carried the containers to China is named "Hamburg" and that they found it curious how Chinese Officials could make such a mistake on an official Chinese form in Chinese.
The Inspection Bureau imposed a fine of approximately 1,000,000 Yuan and claimed it would increase each day of captivity. kVA Effects refused to pay any fines claiming it would be counter to its contract with OCT East and, because they felt the action rose to the level of extortion, the United States Department of State should be informed.
In late July, the Inspections Bureau released the Tesla Coil parts to OCT East. OCT East is demanding payment of the fines from kVA Effects counter to its contract with them.
As of Opening Ceremonies for the Olympics, OCT East has the merchandise and kVA Effects will watch the games from home.
Jeff W. Parisse
This is absolutely terrible to hear! The republic of China is a totally corrupt system and it should never been hosted there. I agree with Hazmatt that the opening was sensational, but to what expense? (beside monetary). Tiananmen square wasn't very long ago, and everyone seems to forget the Tibetans, this is the real face of the Chinese machine, not the fancy architecture and the western front it assumes. During the opening, the commentator said that he had seen the "star men" rehearsing some months before in their camo fatigues. This leads me to assume that these guys are military personnel forced to dance. I don't know if there is anything wrong with that but it doesn't seem quite right to me. It all doesn't seem quite right to me.
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MadsKaizer wrote ...
What ever happend to the large tesla coils china ordered for the opening and closing ceremony?
I havent been able to find them in the footage from the olympics. They are said to produce 100feet streamers in this article
"The device sends tendrils of lightning as long as 100 feet that are generated from two domes. It pops out 20 million volts of electricity."
I always hate people throwing in randomly large numbers for the voltages their TC can generate. 20MV DC alone, will probably generate well over 100m lightning (Quote from : "the maximum voltage was approximately five million volts, resulting in a point to point discharge of ~70 meters (230 feet).")
But it's different with Tesla coils, because the streamer starts small and grows in size as the conductive channel is longer, so relatively low voltages are enough to grow big sparks from a TC.
So I would say, the voltage required for a 100 feet TC arc is probably not 20MV, but closer to 2MV.
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Coronafix wrote ...
This is absolutely terrible to hear! The republic of China is a totally corrupt system and it should never been hosted there. I agree with Hazmatt that the opening was sensational, but to what expense? (beside monetary). Tiananmen square wasn't very long ago, and everyone seems to forget the Tibetans, this is the real face of the Chinese machine, not the fancy architecture and the western front it assumes. During the opening, the commentator said that he had seen the "star men" rehearsing some months before in their camo fatigues. This leads me to assume that these guys are military personnel forced to dance. I don't know if there is anything wrong with that but it doesn't seem quite right to me. It all doesn't seem quite right to me.
What did you expect from a country that has tried to pass off 8 year old girls for 16 year old women for their gymnastics team? Did they think we were retarded? Did they honestly believe that the rest of the world couldn't tell the difference between grade school children and legal aged competitors? I expect nothing more from them than dishonesty and corruption. I can't believe that they hosed KVA effects so bad either.
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How can KVA even trust China in a contract involving precision electronics, they already can't make good simple things without causing an international outburst (the lead) so how can one expect them to even understand the quality of components?
and the "star men" are People's Liberation Army personnel from what I have read...
last, as for the gymnasts, from a country with such a high population, and strict training and all, you would think they wouldn't even need to do that, but they did and it is pretty retarded that they think we are that retarded (like Ultra7 said)
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Or maybe the air is so dirty there that it is becoming conductive and the coil did not work because of sparkovers 
